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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shadow View Post
    This happened 45 years ago! 26 years before, Japan attacked and sunk or damaged 93 US Navy ships (49 US Ships destroyed, the rest were damaged) and destroyed 188 US aircraft. With American Casualties of 2,402 killed and 1,282 wounded.

    Do you Anti Israel and Anti-Semites hold the same animosity against present day Japan??

    And what was Japan's fate for their dastardly crime?

    Hiroshima and Nagasaki: Photos From the Ruins
    http://life.time.com/history/hiroshi...rom-the-ruins/

    The Atomic Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
    http://history1900s.about.com/od/wor.../hiroshima.htm

    Israels fate?

    “Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976 and the largest total recipient since World War ll. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars. Israel receives about $3 billion in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one-fifth of America's entire foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a direct subsidy worth about $500 per year. This largesse is especially striking when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain.”
    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by banner1124 View Post
    Worst... Researcher... EVER!

    Notice the upside down flag? reseacher (used litely) hates Amerika!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanbalt View Post
    I hoped Obama would improve relations. No luck on that so far. I always find it funny that people think getting tough with Iran will get their people on our sides. Clearly they don't understand while Iranians don't like us.
    Iranians don't hate the US. Your worldview seems to be shaped by what the US government's media tells you other people are thinking.

    They're not thrilled with international community support for their mullahs, but they don't dislike our citizens because of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha Beach View Post
    Since Israel has nuclear weapons of its own why does it need to be under our nuclear umbrella Mr. Disraeli?
    With your penchant for name-calling rather than reasoned, well thought out debate, you have obviously become used to firing from the hip to attack other posters rather than stopping to engage brain first.

    Israel is a country about the the size of New Jersey and only 9 miles wide at one point, if you use the 1967 borders. If the Arab States really got their act together and planned a coordinated surprise attack, Israel could be overrun before she knew what hit her and left with no option than to go Nuclear in retaliation.

    The job of the United States Military, being the Worlds only Military Superpower, (at least since Bush and Cheney left office) is to prevent war rather than make war except in a very last resort situation. With Israel and the Middle East in general and the Gulf States in particular being under the United States Nuclear Umbrella; we provide Israel an independent and more importantly unseen (submarine based) Nuclear Umbrella to hopefully deter a coordinated Arab attack from ever taking place, that could threaten Israel's existence and hopefully remove the possibility of Israel deciding to go Nuclear and have to use their own Nuclear weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard777 View Post
    Well Netanyahu never could walk past a pile of crap without jumping smack dab in the middle of it with both feet just to insist he smells like a rose. With Hillary leaving State, I think it would be the perfect time to appoint Bill as the Ambassador to the UN. If Clinton could do for the preservation of Peace, Human rights and the Global Economy what he just did for Obama. How much better off would this world be?

    Having a former President serve as Ambassador to the UN would be a historic first. It would not only add to Obama's legacy. But it would also add to Clintons legacy. Ultimately this would leave Obama with a legacy that is steeped in historic firsts. It would present the picture of a bold President blazing new trails for a new century and millennium.
    Clinton at the UN, John Kerry at State and Chuck Hagel at Defence would arguably be an almost perfect situation for the United States and in turn the world. I can see Kerry at State if we don't get our knickers in a twist over Scott Brown running for Kerry's Senate seat. And I can see Hagel at the Defence Department because of his stand on unnecessary war but unless we can convince Clinton that he would be President of the World if he went to the UN, I can't see Bill taking the job. He would be far happier as Hilary's Secretary of State in 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrob View Post
    Iranians don't hate the US. Your worldview seems to be shaped by what the US government's media tells you other people are thinking.

    They're not thrilled with international community support for their mullahs, but they don't dislike our citizens because of it.
    Who the hell are you and what did you do with jrob?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard777 View Post
    Who the hell are you and what did you do with jrob?
    He is sulking because everyone of any consequence is refusing to debate the old jrob. So like Romney tried to do he is trying to moderate his positions to get back into the debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard777 View Post
    Who the hell are you and what did you do with jrob?
    Heinrich, I've never deviated from this fact. It is you, our loyal lapdog US policy shill that peddles the 'boo hoo! they really hate us because we supported a secular Iranian leader!' line.

    Obviously your goal is to get the gullible to not realize that you supported the rise of the mullahs, just as you supported the 'grass roots' (i.e. State Department sponsored) islamist spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    Clinton at the UN, John Kerry at State and Chuck Hagel at Defence would arguably be an almost perfect situation for the United States and in turn the world. I can see Kerry at State if we don't get our knickers in a twist over Scott Brown running for Kerry's Senate seat. And I can see Hagel at the Defence Department because of his stand on unnecessary war but unless we can convince Clinton that he would be President of the World if he went to the UN, I can't see Bill taking the job. He would be far happier as Hilary's Secretary of State in 2016.
    Byng, there are a lot of things that Bill wants to accomplish with the Clinton Global Initiative. I think the best way for him to do that is to take the initiative to go hands on as the UN Abassador should it be offered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard777 View Post
    Byng, there are a lot of things that Bill wants to accomplish with the Clinton Global Initiative. I think the best way for him to do that is to take the initiative to go hands on as the UN Abassador should it be offered.
    You may well be right but I just don't see Bill Clinton tied down to a job that he actually has to turn up for everyday. But it is an interesting suggestion and a job he would be perfect for.

    I would rather see him as a roving Ambassador especially in the Middle East, but Clinton is a 'good' publicity whore and IMHO is unlikely to take on the difficult assignments because he likes to win and does not want his current popularity and influence tarnished by failing at something. (Especially something that included Netayahu, a leader he can't stand with a passion).

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    Obama wins and Israel kicks the puppy.


    Israel evacuates hundreds of Palestinians to conduct army training


    TUBAS (Ma'an) -- Hundreds of Palestinians are being evacuated from the northern Jordan Valley to make way for an Israeli military training exercise, local officials told Ma'an.

    Villagers received orders this week from the Israeli army to leave their homes for the duration of the exercise, which begins on Sunday.

    Aqaba and Yarza village council head Mukhlas Masaid told Ma'an on Wednesday that Ein al-Hilweh, Yarza, Ras al-Ahmar, al-Malih and al-Meiteh villages received orders, displacing a population of 1,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard777 View Post
    Obama wins and Israel kicks the puppy.


    Israel evacuates hundreds of Palestinians to conduct army training


    TUBAS (Ma'an) -- Hundreds of Palestinians are being evacuated from the northern Jordan Valley to make way for an Israeli military training exercise, local officials told Ma'an.

    Villagers received orders this week from the Israeli army to leave their homes for the duration of the exercise, which begins on Sunday.

    Aqaba and Yarza village council head Mukhlas Masaid told Ma'an on Wednesday that Ein al-Hilweh, Yarza, Ras al-Ahmar, al-Malih and al-Meiteh villages received orders, displacing a population of 1,000.
    Netanyahu is sending a message that his man didn't win the American Election on Tuesday and wants us to know that he is still relevant.

    This is going to be a very unstable and unpredictable time for Netanyahu which as I opined earlier could equal dangerous. Iran's leader pales into insignificance when viewed relative to Israels unstable leader right now..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    You may well be right but I just don't see Bill Clinton tied down to a job that he actually has to turn up for everyday. But it is an interesting suggestion and a job he would be perfect for.

    I would rather see him as a roving Ambassador especially in the Middle East, but Clinton is a 'good' publicity whore and IMHO is unlikely to take on the difficult assignments because he likes to win and does not want his current popularity and influence tarnished by failing at something. (Especially something that included Netayahu, a leader he can't stand with a passion).
    No, you're probably right on this. But I can alway dream.*


    *Cool dad alert

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shadow View Post
    My God, what are they teaching in school these days?! Not only can't they speak coherent English, but these brainwashed foulmouthed Obamabots are so full of genocidal hate. Wishing for the death of 6 million men, women, and children?! Just wow! It's like we are living '1984'. The Left's evil plan is at hand:

    “Every child in America entering school at the age of five is insane because he comes to school with certain allegiances toward our Founding Fathers, toward his parents, toward our elected officials, toward a beleif in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a seperate entity. It’s up to you, teachers, to make all the sick children well by creating the international child of the future.” - Chester M. Pierce. Professor, Department of Educational Psychiatry, Harvard University. During keynote address to 2000 teachers attending the Childhood International Seminar, Denver. Source: ‘Brave New Schools’, by Berit Kjos, Harvard House Publishers, 1995, pg.160
    People like you are why Israeli's are so messed up in the head. anything, word or indication that maybe the israelis are not doing the right thing (like following the apartheid south africa regime practice of bantus) for the palastanians and people like you immediately claim

    "are so full of genocidal hate. Wishing for the death of 6 million men, women, and children?! Just wow! It's like we are living '1984'. The Left's evil plan is at hand:"

    you are the sick one who can't manage a measured disagreement with those who don't think that even if israel "muders children" directly that that is a will of god action fully justified. do you ever wonder why people don't take you seriously? they can't because your every response to any israeli action that's clearly considered wrong is to spout the above nonsense. if you love israel so much you and your kind should just shut up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    With your penchant for name-calling rather than reasoned, well thought out debate, you have obviously become used to firing from the hip to attack other posters rather than stopping to engage brain first.

    Israel is a country about the the size of New Jersey and only 9 miles wide at one point, if you use the 1967 borders. If the Arab States really got their act together and planned a coordinated surprise attack, Israel could be overrun before she knew what hit her and left with no option than to go Nuclear in retaliation.

    The job of the United States Military, being the Worlds only Military Superpower, (at least since Bush and Cheney left office) is to prevent war rather than make war except in a very last resort situation. With Israel and the Middle East in general and the Gulf States in particular being under the United States Nuclear Umbrella; we provide Israel an independent and more importantly unseen (submarine based) Nuclear Umbrella to hopefully deter a coordinated Arab attack from ever taking place, that could threaten Israel's existence and hopefully remove the possibility of Israel deciding to go Nuclear and have to use their own Nuclear weapons.
    Could not resist taking at jab at your favorite bogeyman Bush huh? Heres a flash Mr. Expert on everything foreign : one, the US has been the worlds only superpower since 1990 with the collapse of the Soviet Union due to the efforts of two of your other favorite bogeymen, President Reagan and Lady Thatcher. 2, the Arabs have made coordinated attacks twice before in 48 and 73. How did that turn out? 3. The threat of US attacks on Arabs to protect Israel is an empty threat as long Obama, is President. He could not even protect our Ambassador in Libya from being murdered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha Beach View Post
    Could not resist taking at jab at your favorite bogeyman Bush huh? Heres a flash Mr. Expert on everything foreign : one, the US has been the worlds only superpower since 1990 with the collapse of the Soviet Union due to the efforts of two of your other favorite bogeymen, President Reagan and Lady Thatcher. 2, the Arabs have made coordinated attacks twice before in 48 and 73. How did that turn out? 3. The threat of US attacks on Arabs to protect Israel is an empty threat as long Obama, is President. He could not even protect our Ambassador in Libya from being murdered.
    Obviously an educated and reasoned reply was not what you were really after Omaha Beach, silly me. You have a good night and watch that blood pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    Obviously an educated and reasoned reply was not what you were really after Omaha Beach, silly me. You have a good night and watch that blood pressure.
    My BP is fine. Just sad to see every ill in the world constantly being blamed on Bush because you cannot defend the record of your idol.

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    I said this a few years ago.... the world will see how full of $h!t israel is and it has come to pass. All of the zionazi's here didnt believe...well there you have it....again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha Beach View Post
    My BP is fine. Just sad to see every ill in the world constantly being blamed on Bush because you cannot defend the record of your idol.
    He is not my "idol" Omaha Beach, just the best choice of two not very good choices. As for Bush and Cheney, I am against unnecessary war and young Americans being slaughtered for bad decisions. Nothing more nothing less!

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