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    It is good to see the legitimate government of Iran stand up to Obama's racist anti-Iranian bigotry.

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    U.S. military intelligence analysts are still not sure if the Iranian pilots simply were unable to hit the drone due to lack of combat skill, or whether they deliberately were missing and had no intention of bringing it down.

    But as one of the officials said, "it doesn't matter, they fired on us."

    Little said the United States has to assume Iran was trying to bring down the Predator.

    http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1...one/?hpt=hp_t1
    If Iran is trying to extend an olive branch of cooperation, they have a funny way of doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cprenegade View Post
    Not going to war over a drone. The President has in the past repeatedly made two statements. A. Iran will not be allowed to become capable of making a nuclear weapon and B . Time is not unlimited to comply. I am merely stating this is another chip in the pocket to demand access to their sites. Iran is the one who chose to fire on the drone. Maybe next time, we should send in a drone that can fire back!
    Iran already has the knowledge to build a Nuclear weapon. You can bomb buildings but you can't bomb knowledge. Although Israel does try to eliminate knowledge by murdering Iranian Nuclear scientists, but you can't murder them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    Iran already has the knowledge to build a Nuclear weapon. You can bomb buildings but you can't bomb knowledge. Although Israel does try to eliminate knowledge by murdering Iranian Nuclear scientists, but you can't murder them all.
    Maybe I didn't phrase it quite right, but the sentiment is the same. President Obama has repeatedly stated that Iran will not be allowed to acquire a nuclear bomb while he is president, and that all options are available to prevent that. Those are not my words, they are his.

    “As long as I’m president of the United States, Iran will not get a nuclear weapon,” Mr. Obama said.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/23/us...pagewanted=all

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    Quote Originally Posted by regularguy View Post
    Sure. Let's go to war over a drone.

    We used to send spy planes over China and the USSR all the time, back in the day. Sometimes they got shot down, and that was just the way the game was played.
    We don't need to go to war. It's also a bit amusing two fighter jets couldn't hit a drone.

    OTOH, this drone was reported to be flying over international waters, not over sovereign air space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRaven View Post
    OTOH, this drone was reported to be flying over international waters, not over sovereign air space.
    Not surprisingly, the Iranians say otherwise, claiming the drone was over their territorial waters and that they fired warning shots at it to make the drone's controller back off. (Link.)

    I typically believe the U.S. government's statements over the Iranian government's, but it's not impossible that the Iranians are correct.

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    Why would one beLIEve the US regime besides Reich-wing jingoism deriving from Omar's intellectually bankrupt and fallacious so-called political spectrum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cprenegade View Post
    Maybe I didn't phrase it quite right, but the sentiment is the same. President Obama has repeatedly stated that Iran will not be allowed to acquire a nuclear bomb while he is president, and that all options are available to prevent that. Those are not my words, they are his.
    I am not sure and maybe the President isn't either that Iran actually wants a nuclear weapon. The probably just want the ability to produce one at fairly short notice like Japan and others have so if they are directly threatened like Japan feels it could be by China they have the ability to break one out as a deterrent to attack. Which is why IMHO direct negotiations need to take place, and a new Secretary of State, my choice would be John Kerry, would provide us a fresh start with Iran at a critical point in the proceedings. Clinton is leaving in January so nothing is going to get done between now and then because the Iranians know they will be faced with a different negotiator very soon.

    Our problem for the next few months is Netanyahu, not Iran because Netanyahu was banking on a neocon led Romney administration. Having not got one, he will be at his most unstable and unpredictable which could equal dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regularguy View Post
    Not surprisingly, the Iranians say otherwise, claiming the drone was over their territorial waters and that they fired warning shots at it to make the drone's controller back off. (Link.)

    I typically believe the U.S. government's statements over the Iranian government's, but it's not impossible that the Iranians are correct.
    They were last time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by regularguy View Post
    Not surprisingly, the Iranians say otherwise, claiming the drone was over their territorial waters and that they fired warning shots at it to make the drone's controller back off. (Link.)

    I typically believe the U.S. government's statements over the Iranian government's, but it's not impossible that the Iranians are correct.
    Where was the drone flying?

    If the Iranian fighters intended to shoot down the drone, they could have.

    The U.S. economic sanctions against Iran are, according to Ron Paul, an act of war. Flying a predator drone along Iran's coast line was likely a planned provocation intended to create a response from Iran.

    From the picture, it is very possible that the drone could have penetrated Iranian air space at some point along Iran's coast line.

    Iran knows that the U.S. and the Zionist lunatics in Israel need a casus belli to trigger their attack. Not likely that Iran will be that foolish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regularguy View Post
    Not surprisingly, the Iranians say otherwise, claiming the drone was over their territorial waters and that they fired warning shots at it to make the drone's controller back off. (Link.)

    I typically believe the U.S. government's statements over the Iranian government's, but it's not impossible that the Iranians are correct.
    Won't agrue that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    Iran already has the knowledge to build a Nuclear weapon. You can bomb buildings but you can't bomb knowledge. Although Israel does try to eliminate knowledge by murdering Iranian Nuclear scientists, but you can't murder them all.
    Knowledge it's self is not tangible. But the people and things knowledge is stored in are tangible. Even if if you destroy everything that holds a particual knowledge. The knowledge it's self is still out there waiting to be rediscovered.

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    Well Clinton was known as the airstrike president and I see that Mr. Obama is following that doctrine. Some may see it as a cowardly way of combat, some may see it as a intellgent way of combat.

    http://www.history.com/this-day-in-h...attack-on-iraq
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navypost View Post
    Well Clinton was known as the airstrike president and I see that Mr. Obama is following that doctrine. Some may say as cowardly way of combat, some may see it as a intellgent way of combat.

    http://www.history.com/this-day-in-h...attack-on-iraq
    The 'grunts' sure like it better and if it saves American boots on the ground and in consequence, young American lives, then it gets my vote!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRaven View Post
    We don't need to go to war. It's also a bit amusing two fighter jets couldn't hit a drone.

    OTOH, this drone was reported to be flying over international waters, not over sovereign air space.
    "Reported" is the operative word.

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