Educating Black Boys

[bmore_ken]

You will have to ask him what he meant by it but I assume he means the culture here in the "ghettos" of Baltimore which happen to be mostly black.

Woodlawn is a ghetto?

[Smokey 1]

Woodlawn is a ghetto?

I wouldn't say so but you are asking me to explain his post. Ask him.

[Bmoreteacher]

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/educating-black-boys/

"Tony Harris takes a personal look at Baltimore’s inner city and an education system that has failed black Americans.
Baltimore, Maryland has come to be known as ‘Charm City’ because of its harbor, which attracts a vibrant nightlife and thriving tourism business. But just beyond the harbor’s calm waters is one of the toughest and most violent inner cities in the US."

As a city educator I can tell you the success of a child has nothing to do with their skin color, but everything to do with parent involvement. Even if a child has a single mother, if she is willing to work shifts that allow her to be home when they get off from school to check their homework, make them study, and keep them out of trouble, they'll be just fine. Its the kids who have completely absent parents who get into trouble, and in that case it doesn't matter what color your skin is or what your socioeconomic status is.

[bmore_ken]

I wouldn't say so but you are asking me to explain his post. Ask him.

Well you jumped to his defense, so I thought you knew something

[bmore_ken]

As a city educator I can tell you the success of a child has nothing to do with their skin color, but everything to do with parent involvement. Even if a child has a single mother, if she is willing to work shifts that allow her to be home when they get off from school to check their homework, make them study, and keep them out of trouble, they'll be just fine. Its the kids who have completely absent parents who get into trouble, and in that case it doesn't matter what color your skin is or what your socioeconomic status is.

You can say that to the bigots on the board until you're blue in the face, they still won't get it

[Smokey 1]

Well you jumped to his defense, so I thought you knew something

His defense? No I remarked on your response which did not honestly address his post.

[sigmalady]

You can say that to the bigots on the board until you're blue in the face, they still won't get it

Amen.

[Smokey 1]

As a city educator I can tell you the success of a child has nothing to do with their skin color, but everything to do with parent involvement. Even if a child has a single mother, if she is willing to work shifts that allow her to be home when they get off from school to check their homework, make them study, and keep them out of trouble, they'll be just fine. Its the kids who have completely absent parents who get into trouble, and in that case it doesn't matter what color your skin is or what your socioeconomic status is.

Where did anyone say that black children can't learn?

[genghiskhanraven]

Here's the thing ghetto enablers don't GET
The subject here is race hustlers blaming city teachers for the failure of BLACK kids.
If we had WHITE idiots blaming teachers for the failure of WHITE students in let's say appalatian schools I would call them out for the same bull @&it
The subject again is BLACK people trying to make excuses and blaming anyone but the parents, kids and culture for the failure of BLACK kids (yes theirs a pervasive mentality/culture in the ghetto that getting an education is a white man thing and is selling out).
And to prove I'm right and that city teachers aren't to blame just imagine taking all the kids in the worst academy of hope school the city has to offer and transplant those kids into the best private school in country, it would be a real $h$& show with teachers running for the exists.
Commenting on the bull S$&t of BLACK race hustling ghetto enablers isn't bigotry it's just calling them out with the truth

[boink]

Where did anyone say that black children can't learn?

Rev. Wright in a much-celebrated speech to the NAACP said black kids learn differently....
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/...ht.transcript/

This is the transcript of a speech given by Sen. Barack Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, at an NAACP dinner on Sunday night.

...And we were coming up with more meaningless solutions like reading, writing and Ritalin. Dr. Hale's research led her to stop comparing African-American children with European-American children and she started comparing the pedagogical methodologies of African-American children to African children and European-American children to European children. And bingo, she discovered that the two different worlds have two different ways of learning. European and European-American children have a left brained cognitive object oriented learning style and the entire educational learning system in the United States of America. Back in the early '70s, when Dr. Hale did her research was based on left brained cognitive object oriented learning style. Let me help you with fifty cent words.

Left brain is logical and analytical. Object oriented means the student learns from an object. From the solitude of the cradle with objects being hung over his or her head to help them determine colors and shape to the solitude in a carol in a PhD program stuffed off somewhere in a corner in absolute quietness to absorb from the object. From a block to a book, an object. That is one way of learning, but it is only one way of learning.

African and African-American children have a different way of learning.

They are right brained, subject oriented in their learning style....

[Bmoreteacher]

Where did anyone say that black children can't learn?

Where did I say that someone said that? I was responding to an article claiming that black youth have been failed by the school system, which is a crock of crap.

[BlandFood]

Take your bs somewhere else.

Read it, breathe it.....LEARN it.

[Spot72]

You can say that to the bigots on the board until you're blue in the face, they still won't get it

You know the reality and at some point Ken, you have to stop feeding into it. The media portrays this how the media portrays this and you know who runs the media. Negativity sells, so you know the middle or upper class Black America will not be highlighted in a balanced comparison with the lower class.

25% of the women on this list came from this region.
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In reality you and I both know that there is a dwindling percentage of American Black men that are not making it and that is by choice. Trade schools, armed forces, local universities and those who choose to go directly in the workforce are doing well for young men. In fact this is the most optimistic I have ever seen young American Black professionals, the American dream is coming true for them by the thousands.

When it comes to Baltimore, I do wonder why some of the younger generation professionals buy homes out of the city. I'm noticing trends of some middle and upper class young Black professionals(most who grew up in Baltimore) under 30 buying property outside of Baltimore City. Someone needs to shift that trend because Baltimore would love to have them.

[Smokey 1]

Where did I say that someone said that? I was responding to an article claiming that black youth have been failed by the school system, which is a crock of crap.

Then who were ken and sigma calling bigots?

You can say that to the bigots on the board until you're blue in the face, they still won't get it

[Bmoreteacher]

Then who were ken and sigma calling bigots?

Don't know, shouldn't you be asking them that?

[pepper]

"Black ghetto culture" is a term that will obviously shut some folks down and put them on the defensive right away. It's not the best place to start a debate on the situation..

That said, I think it's the home and parental and community situation that dictates how well a kid will do in school. The schools themselves, the teachers and the teaching methods are secondary at best. One cannot compete with the other.

If there is no solid educational and work ethic example, the kids will fail. (generally-personal anecdotes don't really apply)

[bmore_ken]

"Black ghetto culture" is a term that will obviously shut some folks down and put them on the defensive right away. It's not the best place to start a debate on the situation..

That said, I think it's the home and parental and community situation that dictates how well a kid will do in school. The schools themselves, the teachers and the teaching methods are secondary at best. One cannot compete with the other.

If there is no solid educational and work ethic example, the kids will fail. (generally-personal anecdotes don't really apply)

Well said

[Smokey 1]

Don't know, shouldn't you be asking them that?

No because they were agreeing with your post that was a denial of the idea that black males couldn't learn. I would assume you could answer that.

I didn't have time to watch the whole 47 minute documentary but I thought you must have watched it to be responding the way you did. Did Harris say that black males couldn't learn somewhere in the film?

[bmore_ken]

No because they were agreeing with your post that was a denial of the idea that black males couldn't learn. I would assume you could answer that.

The subject again is BLACK people trying to make excuses and blaming anyone but the parents, kids and culture for the failure of BLACK kids (yes theirs a pervasive mentality/culture in the ghetto that getting an education is a white man thing and is selling out).
And to prove I'm right and that city teachers aren't to blame just imagine taking all the kids in the worst academy of hope school the city has to offer and transplant those kids into the best private school in country, it would be a real $h$& show with teachers running for the exists.

Do I need to break this down for you?

[TheResearcher]

Has anyone actually watched the documentary?