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    This little punk plead out to avoid the death penalty.

    I wonder how many cops have gotten confessions and prosecutors have gotten plea deals with threats of the chair.

    http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2012...age-gets-life/

    Jared Lee Loughner, 24, was then ordered to serve seven consecutive life sentences, plus 140 years in federal prison for the January 2011 shooting rampage that killed six people and wounded 13 others, including Giffords, outside a grocery store in Tucson, Ariz.

    Loughner pleaded guilty under an agreement that guarantees he will spend the rest of his life in prison without the possibility of parole. He avoids a federal death sentence, and local prosecutors said Thursday they would not seek state charges.

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    So he killed 6 people and gets taken care of for the rest of his life? yeah it works

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    The death penalty may not be a deterrent, but it really cuts down on repeat offenders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newpoppop View Post
    The death penalty may not be a deterrent, but it really cuts down on repeat offenders.
    Maybe but how many Jared Lee Loughner's have there been? When's the last time a politician was shot?

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    The death penalty brutalizes our society. On the other hand it does give us a common bond with all those other forward looking nations that still retain this. The fact they are mostly nations with Sharia law, that's cool right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newpoppop View Post
    The death penalty may not be a deterrent, but it really cuts down on repeat offenders.
    The death penalty = life without parole.

    With both, the convicted is just as dead when each sentence is completed; and not until then.

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    if it works how come most of the countries without the death penalty are less violent than our country?

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    When someone kills 6 people I don't see how you cannot give him a death sentence. Mental illness my ***.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grindelwald View Post
    When someone kills 6 people I don't see how you cannot give him a death sentence. Mental illness my ***.
    because then you would be as awful as them

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    Quote Originally Posted by ms maggie View Post
    The death penalty brutalizes our society. On the other hand it does give us a common bond with all those other forward looking nations that still retain this. The fact they are mostly nations with Sharia law, that's cool right?
    In a case where there were multiple killings, and no doubt who did it, yes the death penalty should be carried out. I might feel differently if our jails were what they should be. If he were thrown in a dark cell to live the rest of his life, with no contact with anyone else, and only getting whatever crap the guards wished to throw him for food, I might support life in prison. But life in prison has become only a loss of freedom. There are way too many amenities given to prisoners of this type. Six people were not given the choice of a plea bargain and choice for life. Their executioner was this POS, and he too should be executed.

    Quote Originally Posted by atomic View Post
    if it works how come most of the countries without the death penalty are less violent than our country?
    The violence in the USA does not stem from our use or non use of the death penalty. It is a cultural issue that will only be changed with serious changes in our culture.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grindelwald View Post
    When someone kills 6 people I don't see how you cannot give him a death sentence. Mental illness my ***.
    This is one area where we are in agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prepfan View Post
    The death penalty = life without parole.

    With both, the convicted is just as dead when each sentence is completed; and not until then.
    Not really. If the death penalty is carried out it's permanent. Life without parole can be overturned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dryfire View Post
    Not really. If the death penalty is carried out it's permanent. Life without parole can be overturned.

    If the life without parole is "carried out" [completed] it cannot be overturned. Likewise, the death penalty can also be overturned before it is carried out.

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    The death penalty does not deter other criminals. I believe this has been well established. So that motive is out the window. Again my concern us what it does to us as a society.

    I remember when Bundy was executed, people--many people brought their children to the prison to "witness" the act, big rally in the parking lot. Lots of cheering when the announcement was made. How Christian. And such good parents!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic View Post
    if it works how come most of the countries without the death penalty are less violent than our country?
    They don't have the trash that we have in the city? Trick question that everybody knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ms maggie View Post
    The death penalty does not deter other criminals. I believe this has been well established. So that motive is out the window. Again my concern us what it does to us as a society.

    I remember when Bundy was executed, people--many people brought their children to the prison to "witness" the act, big rally in the parking lot. Lots of cheering when the announcement was made. How Christian. And such good parents!!
    Who cares? He's still dead and probably will remain so forever NEVER to cost us another dime or to kill again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ms maggie View Post
    The death penalty does not deter other criminals. I believe this has been well established. So that motive is out the window. Again my concern us what it does to us as a society.

    I remember when Bundy was executed, people--many people brought their children to the prison to "witness" the act, big rally in the parking lot. Lots of cheering when the announcement was made. How Christian. And such good parents!!
    And how was that any different than the celebrations that took place when Bin-Laden was killed? There were kids at those spontaneous celebrations cheering for the death of somebody. Wasn't Bin Laden given the death penalty.....without a conviction I might add. Not that I disagree with the killing of Bin-Laden, I think it was absolutely warranted and the right thing to do. But how can you argue against the death penalty for someone as evil as Bundy, yet commend the president for carrying out a death penalty for Bin-Laden without even a trial? Isn't that a contradiction? Didn't killing him in cold blood without a trial cheapen us as a society? And it certainly was not a deterent to other terrorists, was it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cprenegade View Post
    And how was that any different than the celebrations that took place when Bin-Laden was killed? There were kids at those spontaneous celebrations cheering for the death of somebody. Wasn't Bin Laden given the death penalty.....without a conviction I might add. Not that I disagree with the killing of Bin-Laden, I think it was absolutely warranted and the right thing to do. But how can you argue against the death penalty for someone as evil as Bundy, yet commend the president for carrying out a death penalty for Bin-Laden without even a trial? Isn't that a contradiction? Didn't killing him in cold blood without a trial cheapen us as a society? And it certainly was not a deterent to other terrorists, was it?
    Dont try logic with her. Never works. Killing bin laden ok with her because it was oked by her Knight in Shining Armor. That is all the reason she needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlandFood View Post
    They don't have the trash that we have in the city? Trick question that everybody knows?
    Unfortunately for England it is catching up to the US in that department. The unlimited immigration from third world countries chickens coming home to roost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha Beach View Post
    Unfortunately for England it is catching up to the US in that department. The unlimited immigration from third world countries chickens coming home to roost.
    Seems that way and they're too stupid to even see it coming. Oh well, if the gelded sheep that they are were armed they might be able to defend themselves. Maybe if they ground pork spotted dick it might act as a repellant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demopublican View Post
    This little punk plead out to avoid the death penalty.

    I wonder how many cops have gotten confessions and prosecutors have gotten plea deals with threats of the chair.

    http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2012...age-gets-life/
    What about it works? Are there people alive today because this guy copped a plea in order to avoid the chair?

    Are there people alive today because this guy had the thought of the chair in his mind in the moments before he went on his shooting spree?

    The death penalty didn't prevent this guy from shooting up that strip mall on Giffords meet the constituents day so I don't know what works about it.

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