Romney was shell shocked after defeat

[BlandFood]

Funny how Rosen was STILL on the Ballot after admitting voter fraud in both Fl. and Md, isn't she supposed to go to jail?

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...oter_fraud.php

[Shell Beach]

LMAO, last week you was around here talking smack, now that the spinelss coward took that L Boggy you want us to leave it lone. Hell to no.

On the contrary, you are free to continue your unhinging. Even the likes of you need to feel good about something. Consider it charity.

[ms maggie]

But the conclusion is not faulty. Romney's chances of victory were always predicated on a very heavy Republican turnout. If your response is that Obama should win simply because there are more Democrats, then I guess we can just stop holding elections. Romney's problem was the lack of GOP turnout and the fact that he did much worse among latinos than either McCain or Bush. His chances were long to begin with but those two factors made it pretty much impossible for him to win.

There has not been a turnout among Republican self identified voters that was higher than Dems since 1976--and probably well before then, that's the first year of reliable exit polling.

39% of voters in 2008 id'd as Dems; 38% in 2012.
32% of voters in 2008 id'd as Repubs; 31% in 2012.

Why would you expect it to be different in 2012? Virtually every poll found that Dems outnumberd Repubs by about 6%, so when that is reflected in the turnout, only people who had bought into magical thinking should have been surprised.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...teractive.html

http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/res...ent#exit-polls

Dean Chambers, the fellow behind "unskewed polls" who the Repubs chose to believe over virtually ever other pollster, commented as follows:

Q: Your website, Unskewed Polls, claimed that it was “erasing the bias” in the major polls by adjusting results to show much more favorable outcomes for Mitt Romney. You turned out to be wrong on Election Day. Why did you miss by so much?
A: The whole notion of the polls being skewed and unskewing them was a belief that they were oversampling Democrats. The majority of the polls that were quote-unquote skewed were around 6 percent more Democrat than Republican. Many of us believed that the electorate was going to look more like 2010 rather than 2008. We just turned out to be wrong in that belief or assumption or prediction, whatever you want to call it.

Mid-term voters are historically a very different sub-set than Presidential year voters, a well know fact among anyone who follows politics at all closely. (Nate Silver has discussed this ad nauseum).

The notion that there were a whole lot of R voters who didn't show up is simply wishful thinking--they didn't show up because they're not there. And as I said, this idea is the one being promoted by the right wing mouthpieces.

It neatly obviates the need for any real introspection on why the party is out of touch with the direction of the nation.

[BlandFood]

Really?

Really?

Really

[georjec2]

If Herman Cain wasn't torpedoed for his alleged affairs how might he a successful business black man Vs. a half white half colored extortionist one on one in the general? Mr Cain would have gotten most of the productive white vote along with what of the black vote? Mr. Cain probably would have won easily against a former community instigator.

Delusional blather. Cain was a effing moron, an mental midget who had as much chance of becoming president as Michelle Bachman which means he had no chance. Cain will not take up more than a couple sentences in the history books.

And as far as black and white, this is the second time in a row a man with black parentage kept the white house from a man were both parents were white.

Cain is a terrible example blandfood. I'm surprised that you would bring him up.

[BlandFood]

Delusional blather. Cain was a effing moron, an mental midget who had as much chance of becoming president as Michelle Bachman which means he had no chance. Cain will not take up more than a couple sentences in the history books.

And as far as black and white, this is the second time in a row a man with black parentage kept the white house from a man were both parents were white.

Cain is a terrible example blandfood. I'm surprised that you would bring him up.

Face it, what you REALLY mean is Cain is a "Tom" that cared more about success than the ignorant slaves on the plantation. Even at that if Cain were running against any white bread demopcrap say Hillary he still would have gotten much of the slave vote because they simply just can't help themselves.

Color first, everything else second, look no further than Benedict Powell.

[Shell Beach]

Delusional blather. Cain was a effing moron, an mental midget who had as much chance of becoming president as Michelle Bachman which means he had no chance. Cain will not take up more than a couple sentences in the history books.

And as far as black and white, this is the second time in a row a man with black parentage kept the white house from a man were both parents were white.

Cain is a terrible example blandfood. I'm surprised that you would bring him up.

Hmm. Some mental midget.

Cain grew up in Georgia and graduated from Morehouse College in 1967 with a Bachelor of Science in mathematics.
Accepted for graduate studies at Purdue University, Cain received a Master of Science in computer science there in 1971, while he also worked full-time as a ballistics analyst for the U.S. Department of the Navy as a civilian.
After completing his master's degree from Purdue, Cain left the Department of the Navy and began working for The Coca-Cola Company in Atlanta as a computer systems analyst. In 1977, he moved to Minneapolis to join Pillsbury, soon becoming director of business analysis in its restaurant and foods group in 1978.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain

[DaggerJohn]

SoSad, I don't understand the gloating either. Do I think either party will go away? No, but we should respect each other and opposing opinions. I suspect most of us were raised that way and hopefully, those of us with children are doing the same.

Hang in there, Mom. You've got a tough job as moderator. I certainly couldn't do it, and i bet most of your critics wouldn't attempt it either.

[demopublican]

The gloating is intended to ensure that partisan hate is thrown back in reaction.

[Shell Beach]

The gloating is intended to ensure that partisan hate is thrown back in reaction.

It's not even about politics. It's about little people with little lives that desperately want to feel good and superior about something.

[ms maggie]

Very interesting article on how the stat modelling and utilizing dynamic info worked in Obama's favor.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...of.single.html

A theory on how Rove went from genius to goat.

Following their 2004 loss, Democrats found it relatively easy to catch up with Republicans in the analysis of individual consumer data for voter targeting. By 2006, Democrats were at least at parity when it came to statistical modeling techniques, and they were exploring ways to integrate them with other modes of political data analysis. Already the public-opinion firms of the left saw themselves as research hubs in a way that their peers on the right didn’t, a disparity that stretched back a generation. When polling emerged in the early 1980s as a new (and lucrative) specialty within the consulting world, the people who flowed into it on the Republican side tended to be party operatives; former political and field directors who had been consumers of polls quickly realized that it was a better business to be producers of them.


Those who went into the polling business on the left were political consultants, too, but many of them also possessed serious scholarly credentials and had derailed promising academic careers to go into politics. Now that generation—Stan Greenberg, Celinda Lake, Mark Mellman, Diane Feldman, among others—preside over firms that see themselves not only as vendors of a stable set of campaign services but patrons of methodological innovation. When microtargeting tools made it possible to analyze the electorate as a collection of individuals rather than merely demographic and geographic subgroups, many of the most established Democratic pollsters in Washington invested in developing expertise in this new approach. Their Republican rivals, by contrast, tended to see the new tools as a threat to their business model

[Creekman]

Indeed. Who could have guessed that some would still be unhinged even in the event of an Obama victory.

Unhinged is in the eye of the beholder. Guess where you fit in!

[Shell Beach]

It's not even about politics. It's about little people with little lives that desperately want to feel good and superior about something.

Unhinged is in the eye of the beholder. Guess where you fit in!

Like clockwork, an example of the little people.

[demopublican]

It's not even about politics. It's about little people with little lives that desperately want to feel good and superior about something.

They gloat to make people angry so that they can point to angry reactions as evidence of hate.

[Eastside Terp]

it is quite hard to understand how rational, thinking adults would choose the path to 4 more years of the same high unemployment and economic stagnation .......

[Shell Beach]

They gloat to make people angry so that they can point to angry reactions as evidence of hate.

I think you give "their" planning and plotting abilities way too much credit.

[zenwalk]

Face it. If you post on this board you are a wonk. Maybe 1 in a 1000 people have time or the inclination to care about this stuff. I'm surprised things are as peaceful as they are. Everybody's sick of fathead politics.

[demopublican]

it is quite hard to understand how rational, thinking adults would choose the path to 4 more years of the same high unemployment and economic stagnation .......

I don't really like Obama but Romney did not offer me enough of an alternative plan.

[octoburn]

Face it. If you post on this board you are a wonk. Maybe 1 in a 1000 people have time or the inclination to care about this stuff. I'm surprised things are as peaceful as they are. Everybody's sick of fathead politics.

I was really concerned that all those Drudgereport, American Thinker, Breitbart and YouTube links that were posted were going to tip the election scales.

[songfourone]

Unhinged is in the eye of the beholder. Guess where you fit in!

Thats what I was saying, uh huh