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    Quote Originally Posted by dsummoner View Post
    Nobody said that the dissertation was the sum of their education and field experience. That strawman is one of your own creation.
    You need you review your own writing there, Sparky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post
    Again in the Great State of Maryland it is required to offer this service. It is a right garunteed to all citizens.
    The 'Great State' can fund it from the pockets of those directly utilizing its services. The irresponsibility of those deciding to breed while being ill-equipped to fund their lifestyle choice should not be a cost to those who had no involvement in any aspect of said irresponsibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Astute Reader(tm) View Post
    You need you review your own writing there, Sparky.
    My writing is just fine and entirely consistent.

    Now, about that ratio of actual private sector gamekeepers with formal academic training in wildlife biology...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsummoner View Post
    My writing is just fine and entirely consistent.
    Really, Sparky? Maybe a little review is in order:

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    What actual private sector wildlife biologist jobs are out there besides academia?
    You asked a question, I gave you an answer. The fact that you didn't want to hear it and expected no answer is not my problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by dsummoner View Post
    Now, about that ratio of actual private sector gamekeepers with formal academic training in wildlife biology...
    It's completely irrelevant. I answered the question exactly as it was asked; now you are trying to slither around an uncomfortable point. So unless you now wish to assert that there are NO wildlife biologists employed as gamekeepers you're just going to have to suck it up and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Astute Reader(tm) View Post
    Really, Sparky? Maybe a little review is in order:



    You asked a question, I gave you an answer. The fact that you didn't want to hear it and expected no answer is not my problem.



    It's completely irrelevant. I answered the question exactly as it was asked; now you are trying to slither around an uncomfortable point. So unless you now wish to assert that there are NO wildlife biologists employed as gamekeepers you're just going to have to suck it up and move on.
    Your rage and lashing out are not going to help you here. I asked a question, you provided an answer. When it came to actual data to back up your answer, you had nothing and became inflamed and enraged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsummoner View Post
    The 'Great State' can fund it from the pockets of those directly utilizing its services. The irresponsibility of those deciding to breed while being ill-equipped to fund their lifestyle choice should not be a cost to those who had no involvement in any aspect of said irresponsibility.
    Sorry not how our states Constitution works! Our state mandates a free public education system. We all pay for it. Utilization is not in the equation! Do you drive on public roads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsummoner View Post
    My writing is just fine and entirely consistent.

    Now, about that ratio of actual private sector gamekeepers with formal academic training in wildlife biology...
    I am still waiting for biologist and chemist with doctorates who make less than a teacher with a masters!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post
    I am still waiting for biologist and chemist with doctorates who make less than a teacher with a masters!
    You are going to wait a long time because that is not what I stated. You changed the parameters of the argument. That is just more of your dishonesty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsummoner View Post
    Your rage and lashing out are not going to help you here. I asked a question, you provided an answer. When it came to actual data to back up your answer, you had nothing and became inflamed and enraged.
    Oh, please! Don't be such a drama queen! And are you now asserting that there is not a single wildlife biologist employed in the private sector as a gamekeeper? If so, make the assertion and stop raising irrelevant objections. Otherwise, move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey 1 View Post
    More "it takes a village" socialist crap.

    Sorry but not all of us owe anything to "society" and teachers make a good salary compared to some other professions that require more academic background. If they don't like what they make as teachers they can be always be roofers.
    Then please explain what you meant by this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post
    Sorry not how our states Constitution works! Our state mandates a free public education system. We all pay for it. Utilization is not in the equation! Do you drive on public roads?
    'Free?'
    'Public' roads?

    The illegitimacy of the funding mechanism derives from the denial of 'due process of law by taking the property of one and bestowing it upon another. This onerous financial burden cannot be justified upon the plea that it is in the interest of economy, or will promote efficiency or safety.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsummoner View Post
    'Free?'
    'Public' roads?

    The illegitimacy of the funding mechanism derives from the denial of 'due process of law by taking the property of one and bestowing it upon another. This onerous financial burden cannot be justified upon the plea that it is in the interest of economy, or will promote efficiency or safety.'
    Yes roads paid for and maintained with public funds, as opposed to private ones! You seem to only be happy if you pay NO taxes. Unfortunatley our society does not work this way. If you want one like this MOVE!!!!!! By the way explain how this legitimizes the secessionists claims!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post

    Then please explain what you meant by this?
    Its self explanatory. Teachers make good salaries compared to some other professions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Astute Reader(tm) View Post
    Oh, please! Don't be such a drama queen! And are you now asserting that there is not a single wildlife biologist employed in the private sector as a gamekeeper? If so, make the assertion and stop raising irrelevant objections. Otherwise, move on.
    I merely asked you a follow-up question regarding whether or not you had any data related to the proportion of actual private sector gamekeepers with formal academic training in wildlife biology. You became needlessly unhinged. If you don't have any data related to the issue... that is fine. If you do, I actually would like to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey 1 View Post
    Its self explanatory. Teachers make good salaries compared to some other professions.
    no you quantified that as professions with more academic back ground!!!!! A doctorate is more than a masters find me a person with a doctorate making making less money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post
    Yes roads paid for and maintained with public funds, as opposed to private ones! You seem to only be happy if you pay NO taxes. Unfortunatley our society does not work this way. If you want one like this MOVE!!!!!! By the way explain how this legitimizes the secessionists claims!
    Again with the 'public' funds...

    I would be happy with individuals paying full freight for the goods and services that they want and not forcing the costs of those goods and services onto others. This is what happens on a daily basis in the actual private sector.

    Which particular claim or claims would you like me to address?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey 1 View Post
    Its self explanatory. Teachers make good salaries compared to some other professions.
    How inconveniently incomplete.

    You said: "teachers make a good salary compared to some other professions that require more academic background

    Since teachers in Md require a Masters, please show data that indicates biologists and/ or chemists (your examples), with "more academic background" than Md teachers, yet, are making less less than the starting teachers salary in this state.

    There, I dumbed it down for you...good luck.

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    Default Petition to prosecute secessionists

    Please use the following link to go to the White House's ”We the People” website and sign the petition to prosecute the advocates of secession for sedition.

    http://wh.gov/Xrn6

    Also, please forward this link to all of your friends who may be inclined to sign it. We need 150 signatures in order for the petition to become searchable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapshot View Post
    How inconveniently incomplete.

    You said: "teachers make a good salary compared to some other professions that require more academic background

    Since teachers in Md require a Masters, please show data that indicates biologists and/ or chemists (your examples), with "more academic background" than Md teachers, yet, are making less less than the starting teachers salary in this state.

    There, I dumbed it down for you...good luck.
    You don't have to have a Masters to start teaching in MD so I didn't include other professions with advanced degrees. What I meant by "more academic background" is that the course of studies to get those degrees is much more difficult than the courses required to get an education degree.

    Why the insult? Can't your arguments stand on their own without ad hominem attacks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsummoner View Post
    Again with the 'public' funds...

    I would be happy with individuals paying full freight for the goods and services that they want and not forcing the costs of those goods and services onto others. This is what happens on a daily basis in the actual private sector.

    Which particular claim or claims would you like me to address?
    The private sctor does this to. They pas onto me a surcharge for the fees to regulate their buisness. They screw up and I have to pay for them to be monitered!

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