The Rematch, Gilman Versus Calvert Hall Part 2!

[hssports]

I hear you...but not sure why he thinks Gilman is entitled to a #1 ranking (if GC were to lose) when they played in a VERY WEAK league. Regardless of the OOC games.

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I hear you...but not sure why he thinks Gilman is entitled to a #1 ranking (if GC were to lose) when they played in a VERY WEAK league. Regardless of the OOC games.

This might be the dumbest statement ever! Weak league compared to what? You can't say regardless of OOC games, just a dumb statement.

GC will be #1 and Gilman #2 in the state as it should b! They are FAR and AWAY the two best teams in the state.

[hssports]

Gilman lost 2 of their 3 OOC games (not counting the cupcake in NC)....so that entitles them to a #1 ranking if GC loses?? I could see that if they played in a competitive league and went undefeated. But as you stated on here many times the MIAA is terrible this year. I would take whoever wins the 4A or 3A public.

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Gilman lost 2 of their 3 OOC games (not counting the cupcake in NC)....so that entitles them to a #1 ranking if GC loses?? I could see that if they played in a competitive league and went undefeated. But as you stated on here many times the MIAA is terrible this year. I would take whoever wins the 4A or 3A public.

First the NC team isn't a cupcake and has 8 D1 players on their roster. They would probably be the second best team in the area. Gilman beat Don Bosco, something that HASN'T been done in FOUR YEARS! That's all that needs to be said!

Secondly I never said that the MIAA was terrible. I said that Gilman is(and they were) head and shoulders better than the rest of the teams this year. But Gilman is head and shoulders better than ANY team that's not named Good Counsel in the state. The MIAA even in a down year this year is still 10 times better than 3A or 4A. Calvert Hall would easily win both leagues and the McDonogh team at the end of the year would have as well.

[2K10Terp]

Gilman was definitely bigger, especially on the outside. This is what Gilman exploited. CHC is strong up the middle against the run but very soft on the outside. The young guys are pass rushers not great tacklers right now in their careers.

CHC's main issue is strength and speed. But Donald isn't a dummy. He has definitely followed Gilman's play book of making the skill players run track. I expect every young skill player that's not playing basketball to be running indoor and outdoor track this year. They will be ready next year and Kuhns will be a stud.

I agree with you definately from a strenth standpoint. CHC needs to somehow make efforts to get their young men more dedicated to the weight room and if they are its as evident on my end. I do think that this was supposedly a down year for CHC after losing so many athletes (and stars) but they still have excelled. I think that looking forward into the future its fair to say that CHC has a very bright future. Which can be perceived to be just as bright as any team in the MIAA including Gilman. Not to discredit Gilman, but I think that this year was a down year for the entire MIAA. I am excited to see what the future holds because it appears to be setting up to be something great for the state of Maryland.

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I agree with you definately from a strenth standpoint. CHC needs to somehow make efforts to get their young men more dedicated to the weight room and if they are its as evident on my end. I do think that this was supposedly a down year for CHC after losing so many athletes (and stars) but they still have excelled. I think that looking forward into the future its fair to say that CHC has a very bright future. Which can be perceived to be just as bright as any team in the MIAA including Gilman. Not to discredit Gilman, but I think that this year was a down year for the entire MIAA. I am excited to see what the future holds because it appears to be setting up to be something great for the state of Maryland.

I agree with basically everything you wrote here. I definitely think that it was a down year for the MIAA and said so at the beginning of the year. CHC just loss way too much.

Now what I don't agree with you is about the future. Next year I think CHC and McDonogh could very well challenge Gilman for the title. Next year will be a "rebuilding" year of sort for Gilman. They will more than likely be starting a 9th grader at QB(although whichever 9th grader starts is supremely talented) and will be very inexperienced at LB position. But after next year, forget about it. Gilman will be ridiculous.

Sure CHC will continue to be a very good program but IMO, until they get a better strength program and line play it won't matter. Gilman's O and D lines are going to be INSANE in the next few years. They will have a DeMatha sized line the next few years. Gilman also won the JV and had 6 9th graders on Varsity that didn't even play in the JV game. And the 8th grade team might be better than the JV! Beating CHC the way they have and playing on National TV will certainly draw even more recruits to the program. And let's not even talk about the money the school can offer.

For CHC(and any other team)to halt Gilman's dominance in the MIAA, they will have to start scheduling better teams. I believe if they had this year, I believe they would have been more competitive and prepared for Gilman this year. You have to get the kids ready for Gilman's size and strength.

[hssports]

First the NC team isn't a cupcake and has 8 D1 players on their roster. They would probably be the second best team in the area. Gilman beat Don Bosco, something that HASN'T been done in FOUR YEARS! That's all that needs to be said!

Secondly I never said that the MIAA was terrible. I said that Gilman is(and they were) head and shoulders better than the rest of the teams this year. But Gilman is head and shoulders better than ANY team that's not named Good Counsel in the state. The MIAA even in a down year this year is still 10 times better than 3A or 4A. Calvert Hall would easily win both leagues and the McDonogh team at the end of the year would have as well.

The team from NC would not be the 2nd best team in the area - I watched the video and they were not good - but hey believe what you want if it makes you feel better - Friendship has tons of D1 players and according to you they aren't good but a team Gilman plays in NC and beats is....
So now CHC would easily win the 4A with the likes of Westminster and QO - OK someone pass the pipe. ha ha
You keep the board alive and we all enjoy your post - thank you. I like the one where you immediately claimed Gilman was the best team in MD. as soon as GC lost in Vegas. How did that work out?

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The team from NC would not be the 2nd best team in the area - I watched the video and they were not good - but hey believe what you want if it makes you feel better - Friendship has tons of D1 players and according to you they aren't good but a team Gilman plays in NC and beats is....
So now CHC would easily win the 4A with the likes of Westminster and QO - OK someone pass the pipe. ha ha
You keep the board alive and we all enjoy your post - thank you. I like the one where you immediately claimed Gilman was the best team in MD. as soon as GC lost in Vegas. How did that work out?

Yes the NC team would be the 2nd best team in the area. Their coaching staff is filled with former NFL players like Eugene Robinson. CHC would beat QO and Westminster. McDonogh right now would beat them both.

GC beat Gilman and deserves to be tops in the state but I believe Gilman right now is the better team.

[hssports]

Yes the NC team would be the 2nd best team in the area. Their coaching staff is filled with former NFL players like Eugene Robinson. CHC would beat QO and Westminster. McDonogh right now would beat them both.

GC beat Gilman and deserves to be tops in the state but I believe Gilman right now is the better team.

Well, we will agree to disagree on all your points. What you believe is what you believe but that doesn't make it reality. I don't believe CHC could beat either of those teams and I don't believe Gilman is better than GC - now or for the past 3 out of 4 years. GC's league play was far superior to what Gilman faced this year.
Are there any other "experts" out there that has your same believe? Maybe I am missing something??
Nonetheless, always great to get the Gilman spin!

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Well, we will agree to disagree on all your points. What you believe is what you believe but that doesn't make it reality. I don't believe CHC could beat either of those teams and I don't believe Gilman is better than GC - now or for the past 3 out of 4 years. GC's league play was far superior to what Gilman faced this year.
Are there any other "experts" out there that has your same believe? Maybe I am missing something??
Nonetheless, always great to get the Gilman spin!

Gilman wasn't better than GC the last 3-4 years? Didn't Gilman BLOW GC out 28-7 and it could have been much worse! Talk about spin!

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On another note, has anybody heard from 92Card? I hope he's ok, I know that beating CHC took Saturday had to be tough on him.

[First_Down]

I spoke with '92's daddy about him and Gil said...

[2K10Terp]

Well, we will agree to disagree on all your points. What you believe is what you believe but that doesn't make it reality. I don't believe CHC could beat either of those teams and I don't believe Gilman is better than GC - now or for the past 3 out of 4 years. GC's league play was far superior to what Gilman faced this year.
Are there any other "experts" out there that has your same believe? Maybe I am missing something??
Nonetheless, always great to get the Gilman spin!

I dont think there is a drop off between GC and Gilmans league play....Especically if you look at all the previous years...Mostly all the head to head match ups were close games and the powers of the states change from year to year. This year the WCAC top teams beat the MIAA top teams but in recent years it has worked the other way as well. GC beat Gilman and Dematha beat CHC but nobody was dominated. It was good games and the Gilman vs GC was an extremely close game.

[First_Down]

Duds for the best money can buy having the best teams with the best players. You can find the same entertaining close games all over the place. GC and Gilman should just stay home and thrill Marylanders until they are really really ready for the national stage to represent.

Just sayin'

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Duds for the best money can buy having the best teams with the best players. You can find the same entertaining close games all over the place. GC and Gilman should just stay home and thrill Marylanders until they are really really ready for the national stage to represent.

Just sayin'

You mean stay in Maryland and destroy everyone? GC and Gilman have won National games! You act like they have went out there and not beat anybody. And I don't want to hear the BS about Gilman losing to Moeller, everyone is losing to Moeller! You can't win them all, ask Don Bosck about that. Who did they lose to again?

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Duds for the best money can buy having the best teams with the best players. You can find the same entertaining close games all over the place. GC and Gilman should just stay home and thrill Marylanders until they are really really ready for the national stage to represent.

Just sayin'

By the way, GC is now ranked #16 in the country and Gilman #23 according to USA Today. Far and away the Class of Maryland.

[hssports]

Gilman wasn't better than GC the last 3-4 years? Didn't Gilman BLOW GC out 28-7 and it could have been much worse! Talk about spin!

No, No....slow down...read again....I wrote 3 out of 4 years. You are so defensive of Gilman you jump and assume things. Happy Thankgiving.

[Hallman]

What was with the size of the Gilman fan base at the game? That side of Johnny U Stadium was near empty.

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What was with the size of the Gilman fan base at the game? That side of Johnny U Stadium was near empty.

It was small but louder than the CHC side!

[Hallman]

Unfortunately the CHC side didn't have a whole lot to cheer about. The Gilman side seemed a good bit small that last years. Not a big deal just an observation