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    To quote Bowie Kuhn, how is this "in the best interest of baseball"

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    Quote Originally Posted by can you hear me now! View Post
    this par for the course under the current commissioner....guys like Loria, Glass, and Angelo$er don't care about winning, just turning a healthy profit, fans be damned...

    The Blue Jays got just go a whole lot better and that's not good news for the O's....
    It definitely ups the ante, doesn't it?

    The Casilla pick up looks kinda cheesy now ...

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    I read all the comments about how this is unfair to the city and unfair to the fans and bad for baseball and a more imaginative slant comes to mind.

    In many ways, this is good for baseball because it sends a message to overpaid and underperforming players. Cleaning house to such an extreme essentially points the finger of blame at the players traded and surely doesn't make them happy. It's the ultimate example of high expectations or else and I support it for the good of the game. I wish more teams would do it.

    Also, examples abound where teams with less accomplished players come from no-where and make the playoffs with the O's, Nats and A's being three examples from 2012. I fully expect the 2013 no-name Marlins to win more games than the 2012 big-name Marlins.

    It's also likely that the 2013 Blue Jays will be much improved as the Marlins rejects recapture their pride just as the Red Sox rejects will almost certainly lift the 2013 Dodgers for the same reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hector View Post
    I read all the comments about how this is unfair to the city and unfair to the fans and bad for baseball and a more imaginative slant comes to mind.

    In many ways, this is good for baseball because it sends a message to overpaid and underperforming players. Cleaning house to such an extreme essentially points the finger of blame at the players traded and surely doesn't make them happy. It's the ultimate example of high expectations or else and I support it for the good of the game. I wish more teams would do it.

    Also, examples abound where teams with less accomplished players come from no-where and make the playoffs with the O's, Nats and A's being three examples from 2012. I fully expect the 2013 no-name Marlins to win more games than the 2012 big-name Marlins.

    It's also likely that the 2013 Blue Jays will be much improved as the Marlins rejects recapture their pride just as the Red Sox rejects will almost certainly lift the 2013 Dodgers for the same reason.
    I guess you won't be praising the Marlins this offseason like last year?

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    I've been listening to the talking heads discuss this trade, and my biggest curiousity is how this will affect the ALe (obviously I'm thinking about it fro the O's perspective).

    several people have asked, does this trade make the Blue Jays now a contender in the ALe. no one has said yes. all the analysts just talk around the question. I'm getting the impression that this makes them better, but not enough to be a challenger for the post season.

    of course, we're talking about this trade alone and this point in the off season, not "what could be" or future moves taht could be made.

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    Im not worried about Toronto overtaking the O's position just yet. These Marlin players outside of Johnson are not deal breaker-division winner types by themselves. Whats to stop the Orioles from taking on someones salary? I was more disappointed when the Dodgers got Hanley Rameriz last year. Or when the Red Sox dumped 4 of their trouble makers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivanbalt View Post
    I guess you won't be praising the Marlins this offseason like last year?
    The Marlins fate was sealed last year when Ozzie stopped being Ozzie. Same thing happened to the O's in 2011 when Buck stopped being Buck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weird-O View Post
    I've been listening to the talking heads discuss this trade, and my biggest curiousity is how this will affect the ALe (obviously I'm thinking about it fro the O's perspective).

    several people have asked, does this trade make the Blue Jays now a contender in the ALe. no one has said yes. all the analysts just talk around the question. I'm getting the impression that this makes them better, but not enough to be a challenger for the post season.

    of course, we're talking about this trade alone and this point in the off season, not "what could be" or future moves taht could be made.
    The talking heads need help. Of course the Blue Jays will be contenders for the playoffs in 2013. That's 100% certain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandrews View Post
    Jeffry Loria destroys the Marlins
    As though you even care, you little biznitch.

    I mean, the O's are still awesome, right ?

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    When I heard about this trade, my first thought was how badly baseball needs to contract, and how rudely Bud Selig was blasted for suggesting it. Each of the major sports would benefit by cutting the driftwood, and that's true for baseball as well. Baseball would be far better off without the Marlins and the Astros for starters (the Astros have been in ML baseball for 50 years, and just what is their impact on the game's history/culture? Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, period. Every other great player established their greatness elsewhere--Ryan, Morgan, Clemens. Their one trip to the world series was abysmal. They have by far the most vanilla history in the game). It wouldn't hurt to eliminate the Rays and Rockies as well, although it's far more difficult to go there. As terrible as the Royals and Pirates have been in recent decades, their impact has been far deeper and full of memories...

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    Quote Originally Posted by O for the Seventies View Post
    When I heard about this trade, my first thought was how badly baseball needs to contract, and how rudely Bud Selig was blasted for suggesting it. Each of the major sports would benefit by cutting the driftwood, and that's true for baseball as well. Baseball would be far better off without the Marlins and the Astros for starters (the Astros have been in ML baseball for 50 years, and just what is their impact on the game's history/culture? Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, period. Every other great player established their greatness elsewhere--Ryan, Morgan, Clemens. Their one trip to the world series was abysmal. They have by far the most vanilla history in the game). It wouldn't hurt to eliminate the Rays and Rockies as well, although it's far more difficult to go there. As terrible as the Royals and Pirates have been in recent decades, their impact has been far deeper and full of memories...
    those teams all make money, lots and lots of money. why contract a profitable franchise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by O for the Seventies View Post
    When I heard about this trade, my first thought was how badly baseball needs to contract, and how rudely Bud Selig was blasted for suggesting it. Each of the major sports would benefit by cutting the driftwood, and that's true for baseball as well. Baseball would be far better off without the Marlins and the Astros for starters (the Astros have been in ML baseball for 50 years, and just what is their impact on the game's history/culture? Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, period. Every other great player established their greatness elsewhere--Ryan, Morgan, Clemens. Their one trip to the world series was abysmal. They have by far the most vanilla history in the game). It wouldn't hurt to eliminate the Rays and Rockies as well, although it's far more difficult to go there. As terrible as the Royals and Pirates have been in recent decades, their impact has been far deeper and full of memories...
    I disagree about the Rockies - they are a good franchise, and do a lot for baseball.
    As far as the Rays - they are a sad story.
    That is the best run team in baseball, and they can't get people to come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    As though you even care, you little biznitch.

    I mean, the O's are still awesome, right ?
    No, you're awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandrews View Post
    No, you're awesome
    No, you're awesome.

    Or perhaps might be, if you can maintain a sense of humor.

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