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    Default Why conservative media lied to conservatives

    Simply put, it was a business decision.

    The Real War within the GOP

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    on Saturday's edition of his show "UP", Chris Hayes amplified the point further in his brilliant monologue about the GOP's grim prospects. The whole thing is well worth watching or reading the transcript, but here's the key excerpt (emphasis added):

    The beating heart of modern conservatism is its visceral appeal to anxieties and fears of white Christians. … Once you understand this then you can see that the Republican party’s problems are deeper than, say, Republican opposition to comprehensive immigration reform, or even the far less controversial DREAM Act. That policy opposition is a symptom of the problem, not the cause. The deeper issue is that for conservative politicians and networks and websites there is simply too much to be gained by feeding the sense of persecution and siege that many white Christians feel down to their toes.
    Then last night on The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell, Steve Kornacki put a bow around it with this analysis (the whole video is great; Kornacki starts about 10:25 in):

    The problem is, in today's Republican universe, there are powerful incentives for opinion shapers like Limbaugh not to win elections. Rush Limbaugh did not need Mitt Romney to win in order to have influence, to have clout, and to make money, in fact, he might have more influence, more clout, more prominence, and make more money if Mitt Romney loses. And he is feeding information, creating talking points, and creating sort of the agenda for the party base. And there's this beautiful built-in excuse: it's like a "heads I win, tails you lose" thing for a guy like Limbaugh. You can run an election like this, and Romney can lose, and it can be "Well, Romney wasn't conservative enough." OR you can look at one of those races…where clearly they nominated the most conservative candidate and they still lost, then the excuse is "Well, the sellouts in the party establishment abandoned the pure conservative candidate." So either way you can feed the sense of conservative victimhood, and a guy like Limbaugh can always pit himself against the party establishment, and he…doesn't need to tell the base something that's going to win an election, he needs to tell the base something that's going to make them feel good and make them feel like they're fighting against the powerful, arrogant establishment.

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    Let's amplify the point.

    Rush, FAUX and the rest intentionally lied to their audiences because it made money to do so.

    And they still do it to this day.

    Cynical?

    Hardly. Realistic.


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    The DailyKos giving the reasons about conservative motives, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    The DailyKos giving the reasons about conservative motives, lol.


    You, pretending to make sense. lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    The DailyKos giving the reasons about conservative motives, lol.
    Who better, especially considering that we can count on the conservatives involved to not tell the truth.

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    Irony. It is so effin lost on the left.

    As long as there is a market for over the top partisan commentary then people like Limbaugh will make money off of it and extremist web sites like the dailyKos will get hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiAuto View Post
    Irony. It is so effin lost on the left.

    As long as there is a market for over the top partisan commentary then people like Limbaugh will make money off of it and extremist web sites like the dailyKos will get hits.
    See the Jon Stewart video series 'Bullsh#t Mountain.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phineas Finn View Post
    Who better, especially considering that we can count on the conservatives involved to not tell the truth.
    Oh, maybe, say, someone without a partisan axe to grind? Asking the kostards about Limbaugh is like asking the WBC about gays. You'll have a good idea what the answer is going to be and that the answer will be largely BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiAuto View Post
    Irony. It is so effin lost on the left.

    As long as there is a market for over the top partisan commentary then people like Limbaugh will make money off of it and extremist web sites like the dailyKos will get hits.
    I dunno. I know a number of people who proudly tell me they get their news exclusively from Fox and are devotees of Limbaugh et al. To a man they were stunned that Romney lost. STUNNED!

    Is it healthy to have a big segment of the population so divorced from objective reality--see birtherism e.g.

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    I think P.T. Barnum knew exactly why conservative media lied to conservatives.

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    It has been established before that the conservative media lied.

    The question of the piece and the thread is, why?

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    Mmmkay, y'all have fun with your alternative betaverse topic.

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    When Obama bombed in the first debate, the liberal media trashed him. They admitted he sucked and didn't make excuses for his performance.

    When Romney bombed in debate two and three, all we heard from the Right-wing media were excuses and denials.

    When all the polls showed Obama heading towards a decisive electoral college win, all we heard from the Right-wing media were accusations that the polls were skewed towards Dems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    When Obama bombed in the first debate, the liberal media trashed him. They admitted he sucked and didn't make excuses for his performance.

    When Romney bombed in debate two and three, all we heard from the Right-wing media were excuses and denials.

    When all the polls showed Obama heading towards a decisive electoral college win, all we heard from the Right-wing media were accusations that the polls were skewed towards Dems.
    Simple, Romney was the challenger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiAuto View Post
    I doubt 2% of Fox viewers even know what Daily Kos is. The only times I've bumped into it is here. Everybody knows Fox and that's the huge difference. Add in Limbaugh and the usual parasites and you have a chorus of stupidity. The dems have MSNBC. Neither channel is a news station any more than the average FM music station is. The only actual news station around anymore is public broadcasting and the repubs are chomping to pull the plug on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenwalk View Post
    I doubt 2% of Fox viewers even know what Daily Kos is. The only times I've bumped into it is here. Everybody knows Fox and that's the huge difference. Add in Limbaugh and the usual parasites and you have a chorus of stupidity. The dems have MSNBC. Neither channel is a news station any more than the average FM music station is. The only actual news station around anymore is public broadcasting and the repubs are chomping to pull the plug on it.
    gonzo knows what the daily kos is.

    Fox and MSNBC are not good sources for information. Guess what? Neither is the dailyKos and gonzo knows it. Or at least he should.

    But if he wants to have an alternative betaverse topic of double standards then I guess that is up to him.

    He asks:
    It has been established before that the conservative media lied.

    The question of the piece and the thread is, why?
    The answer is the same for why the dailyKos lies. It is politics. Politics is not an honest man's game.

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    Conservative media lied to conservatives because you couldn't separate the players from the news. In other words, there's a fundamental conflict of interest when your "news pundits" are the ones making the news.

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    Here's a fine tumblr of conservative pundits and their awful, BS predictions.

    http://punditshaming.tumblr.com/

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