Roethlisberger rib injury a 'greater concern' than shoulder, could 'kill him'

[Tru Dat]

Poor guy just had all the raping cleared off his schedule for weeks. NFL players really have it awful.

I kid (mostly). Hope he gets better.

Was you raised by crackheads?

[can you hear me now!]

Good lord...

PLEASE AMEND MY PREVIOUS POST TO INCLUDE CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW!!!

accuracy matters when your painting people as classless....keep that in mind...

[baltimoreron]

I know Ben has had his share of 'indiscretions', but it looks like he has turned himself around somewhat, what with being married and a kid on the way, and he was having a good season. I wish Ben 'the football player' a speedy and full recovery.

I don't wish a player injury or gloat about one regardless of how I feel about the team. It's called sportsmanship.

[Ravens2006]

Ben was never charged with anything, keep that in mind. The first story seemed to fall apart thanks to information from a friend of the accuser. The second one might have been messier, but the accuser never chose to pursue it further (for her own reasons which may or may not be worth discussion) so regardless of what we might read in to it... at the end there was basically no real story.

My big gut feeling here is that Ben probably didn't do anything illegal, but probably WAS a complete and royal rear-hole for a long time in the way he carried himself and treated other people. Maybe the second incident never becomes anything if the first person hadn't put a story out there. He probably had a bit of a God complex going on, having been worshipped by those around him through high school and college, had great success early in the pros, and likely never suffered consequences for the stupid / unethical things he did.

Hopefully the lack of bad stories about him off the field since then, the marriage, the pending fatherhood, etc... are all signs that he's "grown up" and become a better person. Maybe somebody / something finally got through to him and he realized that he needed to improve himself. Maybe later in life than MOST people do, but it can happen.

[OriginalColtsFan]

accuracy matters when your painting people as classless....keep that in mind...

*facepalm*

[OriginalColtsFan]

Ben was never charged with anything, keep that in mind. The first story seemed to fall apart thanks to information from a friend of the accuser. The second one might have been messier, but the accuser never chose to pursue it further (for her own reasons which may or may not be worth discussion) so regardless of what we might read in to it... at the end there was basically no real story.

My big gut feeling here is that Ben probably didn't do anything illegal, but probably WAS a complete and royal rear-hole for a long time in the way he carried himself and treated other people. Maybe the second incident never becomes anything if the first person hadn't put a story out there. He probably had a bit of a God complex going on, having been worshipped by those around him through high school and college, had great success early in the pros, and likely never suffered consequences for the stupid / unethical things he did.

Hopefully the lack of bad stories about him off the field since then, the marriage, the pending fatherhood, etc... are all signs that he's "grown up" and become a better person. Maybe somebody / something finally got through to him and he realized that he needed to improve himself. Maybe later in life than MOST people do, but it can happen.

Just look at Ray Lewis, for example.

[baltimoreron]

Just look at Ray Lewis, for example.

Exactly. Guilty in the court of public opinion, regardless of the truth.

[OriginalColtsFan]

Exactly. Guilty in the court of public opinion, regardless of the truth.

Well...it's a little more involved than that. Earlier in his career, he made some bad choices about who he hung out with and some of the other choices he made. He turned it around, and deserves credit for that.

[DkBlue]

Exactly. Guilty in the court of public opinion, regardless of the truth.

Very true. People remember one or two things and that is it. Not quite the same but look at the Pro Bowl voting.

Troy Polamalu and Ed Reed are leading the voting at safety yet neither is having any kind of year.

[Ravens2006]

Well...it's a little more involved than that. Earlier in his career, he made some bad choices about who he hung out with and some of the other choices he made. He turned it around, and deserves credit for that.

I actually had a bit of a minor (VERY minor, but still unpleasant) incident in one of the elevator waiting areas at a Ravens game back in '98 or '99. Some "words" were said and there might have been some unnecessary bumping. Afterwards one of the usher / security types told me that the guys were guests of Ray Lewis, and they were jerks every week. Who knows if either / both of them were the same guys who wound up in court in Atlanta, I honestly couldn't remember the faces well enough to know either way. But the stories are rampant that he was letting in anybody and everybody to his "inner circle" in the early years... and after 2000 completely changed his social life / associations.

[OriginalColtsFan]

I actually had a bit of a minor (VERY minor, but still unpleasant) incident in one of the elevator waiting areas at a Ravens game back in '98 or '99. Some "words" were said and there might have been some unnecessary bumping. Afterwards one of the usher / security types told me that the guys were guests of Ray Lewis, and they were jerks every week. Who knows if either / both of them were the same guys who wound up in court in Atlanta, I honestly couldn't remember the faces well enough to know either way. But the stories are rampant that he was letting in anybody and everybody to his "inner circle" in the early years... and after 2000 completely changed his social life / associations.

And as an example of the opposite...I saw in the news the other day that that P.O.S. Jeremy Stevens was caught up in yet another mess involving a woman -- Hope Solo, the Olympic soccer goal tender to whom he's engaged. (She must be a real piece of work as well; engaged to that dirtball after 2 months). He was, is, and barring some miracle always will be a P.O.S. So some guys never change, while others do.

[DkBlue]

And as an example of the opposite...I saw in the news the other day that that P.O.S. Jeremy Stevens was caught up in yet another mess involving a woman -- Hope Solo, the Olympic soccer goal tender to whom he's engaged. (She must be a real piece of work as well; engaged to that dirtball after 2 months). He was, is, and barring some miracle always will be a P.O.S. So some guys never change, while others do.

Interesting that they brought Talib into N.E. as he is a real dirtbag.

[OriginalColtsFan]

Interesting that they brought Talib into N.E. as he is a real dirtbag.

Sometimes Belichick takes a flyer on a player like that who he thinks he might be able to turn around -- at least in the short term. But yeah...Talib is a real piece of work. But Stevens is a total P.O.S. He had rape charges nullified going back to his college days.

[DkBlue]

Sometimes Belichick takes a flyer on a player like that who he thinks he might be able to turn around -- at least in the short term. But yeah...Talib is a real piece of work. But Stevens is a total P.O.S. He had rape charges nullified going back to his college days.

Agree, Stevens is a piece of work. He was always in the news when he was here in Tampa. He was caught smoking weed the night before a game.

I realize a lot of people smoke and it is no big deal but anyone dumb enough to smoke in a car is really stupid.

[OriginalColtsFan]

Agree, Stevens is a piece of work. He was always in the news when he was here in Tampa. He was caught smoking weed the night before a game.

I realize a lot of people smoke and it is no big deal but anyone dumb enough to smoke in a car is really stupid.

I'm no geneticist, but if Stevens and Solo ever manage to have kids, I'd pay money to see those mutants.



Then again...

"Stevens shoots...Solo saves. The score is still deadlocked at 0-0".)

[Frank Costanza 831]

I don't like Ben at all but i would never wish a fatal injury on him or anyone. He's a human being just like any of us and it's only a game

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

I agree, and would rather the Ravens play--- and beat-- the Steelers when they are at their best.

Same here even though I cannot stand the guy.

[baltimoreron]

Some might say they'd prefer to beat them at their 'best'. I say I'd just like to beat the 22 they line up on Sunday.

[Durrty Bird]

I don't like Ben at all but i would never wish a fatal injury on him or anyone. He's a human being just like any of us and it's only a game

I agree. What ever you think of his off field behavior the guy does have a life and now a family beyond football. And for what it's worth he is an absolute treat to watch on Sundays.

[ms maggie]

Feel badly for his wife. She will have new baby shortly and a husband nursing a couple injuries. Imagine she can afford help though.....