In the shadow of Mitt and Ryan on pro-life

[songfourone]

Correct, and equally true is that hospitals make mistakes, which the hospital is no doubt going to find out about when the victim's death of kin sues the hospital on the basis of that 1982 amendment.

I'm still amazed at the handwringing. Let's say that Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, Todd Akin and Richard Murdock all won. Nothing short of a constitutional amendment would "outlaw" abortion, that's a passage by the House and Senate, a signature by the president and ratification by 66% of the states. Not going to happen.

So let's say that a couple of conservative USSC justices got appointed and overturned Roe v Wade. That would mean that the lawmaking power on abortion would go back to the states. And in a state like Maryland that's bluer than a freaking bucket of India ink, that would NEVER happen.

My postings were more about the religious doctrine and medicine.

[Monte]

What's to disagree about? Who is suggesting that medically necessary abortions be banned? The answer is nobody. It is also true that the floodgates opened by Roe will never be closed so you needn't worry. The wheels of the abortion mills will grind remorselessly on.

Correct on all counts. Mitt Romney was never on board to advance any anti-abortion legislation, he just wanted to defund Planned Parenthood (which was a great idea). There are abortion mill closures that occur with a fair degree of regularity, and abortion related deaths. The mainstream media NEVER reports on them. What happened in Ireland was a tragedy, but the press is reporting this around the world. It is a complete double standard.

[songfourone]

Correct on all counts. Mitt Romney was never on board to advance any anti-abortion legislation, he just wanted to defund Planned Parenthood (which was a great idea). There are abortion mill closures that occur with a fair degree of regularity, and abortion related deaths. The mainstream media NEVER reports on them. What happened in Ireland was a tragedy, but the press is reporting this around the world. It is a complete double standard.

You realize PP runs mostly on donations, only 1/3 comes from Feds and less than 3% of funding goes to abortions.

[songfourone]

Correct on all counts. Mitt Romney was never on board to advance any anti-abortion legislation, he just wanted to defund Planned Parenthood (which was a great idea). There are abortion mill closures that occur with a fair degree of regularity, and abortion related deaths. The mainstream media NEVER reports on them. What happened in Ireland was a tragedy, but the press is reporting this around the world. It is a complete double standard.

Gonna need a link for that, abortion related deaths.

[kudzu]

You realize PP runs mostly on donations, only 1/3 comes from Feds and less than 3% of funding goes to abortions.

Someone once told me "life's not fair".

[Monte]

My postings were more about the religious doctrine and medicine.

I understand that. Ireland's laws are much more strict regarding abortions than they are on in this country.

In no less a conspicious place than the Wiki, we see this entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholi...h_and_abortion

The principle of double effect is frequently cited in relation to abortion. A doctor who believes abortion is always morally wrong may nevertheless remove the uterus or fallopian tubes of a pregnant woman, knowing the procedure will cause the death of the embryo or fetus, in cases in which the woman is certain to die without the procedure (examples cited include aggressive uterinecancer and ectopic pregnancy).

What Obamacare does is "force" religious institutions to pay for birth control and abortion and that is wrong.

[SoSad]

You realize PP runs mostly on donations, only 1/3 comes from Feds and less than 3% of funding goes to abortions.

Only a third? We could be using that money to feed the poor, give them clothing and shelter and improve their quality of life.

[songfourone]

Only a third? We could be using that money to feed the poor, give them clothing and shelter and improve their quality of life.

It goes to mammogram, cancer screenings, birth control etc.

[Mom49of4]

Why are taxpayers having to support PP in the first place?

[kudzu]

Why are taxpayers having to support PP in the first place?

Because women are incapable of choosing to not have sex.

[Monte]

It goes to mammogram, cancer screenings, birth control etc.

Only if you believe Planned Parenthood's self-reported 3% statistic.
Mona Charen makes a good point here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...na-charen?pg=2

When a client comes in for an abortion, she gets a pregnancy test (one service), a pelvic exam (second service), an STD test (third service), a breast exam (fourth service), a package of contraceptives (fifth service), and so forth. But calculated as a percentage of revenue generated, abortion accounts for about a third of PP’s business. And one out of three clients who walks into a PP clinic is there for a pregnancy test. A third of those go on to have abortions.

[SoSad]

It goes to mammogram, cancer screenings, birth control etc.

If 100% of our taxpayer dollars went to what you have stated, that would be one thing, but when you throw abortion into the mix, you can't ask everyone to stand behind it no matter how insignificant you may find the percentage spent to be. Abortion should be completely off the table.

I never understood how there could be an organization called "Planned" Parenthood, when abortion is anything but planned.

[kudzu]

Because women are incapable of choosing to not have sex.

That's sarcasm, btw.

[Mom49of4]

That's sarcasm, btw.

I knew that.

[kudzu]

I knew that.

I figured as much.

Just wanted to make sure that others understood that.

I'm 100% pro choice.

But the notion that others/government pay for one's birth control offends me to no end.

[SoSad]

I figured as much.

Just wanted to make sure that others understood that.

I'm 100% pro choice.

But the notion that others/government pay for one's birth control offends me to no end.

I, too, am speaking more to the goverment support of it than forcing any idea onto someone.

[Monte]

I, too, am speaking more to the goverment support of it than forcing any idea onto someone.

Exactly. Although pro-life myself, it is a free country for someone to choose to have an abortion, but Catholic hospitals should not be forced to perform abortions unless they are to save the life of the mother.