He's in the wrong party for thatOriginally Posted by kudzu
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He's in the wrong party for that
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Perhaps not. We'll see...
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I believe we built that prosperity, and landed a man on the moon, because the free enterprise system had the opportunity to work without undue government regulatory influence.
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That and a credit card that appears to have no limit.
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What was the top marginal tax rate in 1969? And NASA did the heavy lifting putting a man on the moon. Free enterprise profited enormously from the advances that were govt funded--most of the initial progress in computer technology can be traced back to that initiative.
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Jindal out of touch with facts. Obama won because of free stuff vote!
SEE:
Romney says Obama won election with promise of 'gifts' for key groups, Jindal disagrees
Published November 15, 2012
FoxNews.com
“Mitt Romney, in some of his first reported remarks since his concession speech, claimed Wednesday he lost the presidential election because President Obama provided "gifts" to key groups like black, Hispanic and young voters.”
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“Jindal, thought to be a potential 2016 candidate and the incoming RGA chairman, said he "absolutely rejects" Romney's "gifts" assertion, and said those types of notions do not represent who Republicans are as a party.”
Whether or not Jindal accepts statistical facts, one thing is certain ___ the truth cannot be changes to what it is not! The very attraction of Obama’s success is based upon free stuff which he alleged Romney would take away. The list of free stuff includes such things as food stamps, government subsidized public and private housing, free healthcare care, free condoms, birth control pills and abortions, not to mention monthly welfare checks which Obama removed the work requirement from to be eligible to receive. And then there are those pesky free federal Pell Grants which Obama used as a weapon to earn the vote of college aged students.
And what does Obama’s free stuff party ultimately offer? The answer to this question is found in our nation’s Black community who bought into the free stuff wagon of the 60s, and has remained in a state of poverty ever since, enslaved to government with generation after generation on the public dole with nothing left than their vote which they use to purchase government free stuff.
And how does Obama’s Free Stuff Party affect immigrants, especially the Latino vote which overwhelming went to Obama?
SEE: Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children
In 2009 (based on data collected in 2010), 57 percent of households headed by an immigrant (legal and illegal) with children (under 18) used at least one welfare program, compared to 39 percent for native households with children.
Immigrant households’ use of welfare tends to be much higher than natives for food assistance programs and Medicaid. Their use of cash and housing programs tends to be similar to native households.
A large share of the welfare used by immigrant households with children is received on behalf of their U.S.-born children, who are American citizens. But even households with children comprised entirely of immigrants (no U.S.-born children) still had a welfare use rate of 56 percent in 2009.
Immigrant households with children used welfare programs at consistently higher rates than natives, even before the current recession. In 2001, 50 percent of all immigrant households with children used at least one welfare program, compared to 32 percent for natives.
Households with children with the highest welfare use rates are those headed by immigrants from the Dominican Republic (82 percent), Mexico and Guatemala (75 percent), and Ecuador (70 percent). Those with the lowest use rates are from the United Kingdom (7 percent), India (19 percent), Canada (23 percent), and Korea (25 percent).
To continue, go to the link provided above.
And how does the leadership of the Free Stuff Party benefit? While giving scraps and crumbs to purchase the vote of our nation’s poor to keep themselves in power, they plunder BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS from our national treasury and funnel this loot to their pals running a green energy industrial complex swindling operation [Solyndra/Chevy Volt/Fisker, Exelon, etc.], not to mention their money laundering operation benefiting union thugs who used their muscle to re-elect Obama and detest people being free to negotiate the value of their own labor which would put these union thug parasites out of work and end their living large off the wages of those they pretend to represent.
Gov. Jindal ought to rethink his absurdity and face the truth that free stuff was used to bribe an economic group which does not discriminate among women, men, Blacks, Whites, Latinos, or college aged students, but rather, is focused on their economic condition which is largely bought about by the Free Stuff Party’s continual attacks upon America’s once free market system.
What Gov. Jindal ought to point out is that the Free Stuff Party’s leadership is dependent upon bad economic times which opens the door to recruiting new numbers into their Free Stuff Party. But the problem is, what happens when those pulling the free stuff wagon can no longer endure its weight? Is the rioting and looting now experienced in Greece the obvious and predictable consequence? If it is, then Jindal must accept the truth about the Free Stuff Party’s victory being based upon bribery and bad economic times, and ask these voters if they really want to live a life of slavery, married to the leadership of the Free Stuff Party for the crumbs and scraps they give, or work to elect those who will restore our nation’s once thriving free market system which has always rewarded those willing to work for what they receive.
JWK
The liberty to fail or succeed at one’s own hand without government intrusion is a PROGRESSIVE POLITICIAN`S nightmare and not the American Dream
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And Mitt was offering free stuff in the form of tax cuts to the 1% that the country could not afford.
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And that is why Jindal ought to be speaking the truth about the Free Stuff Party. The truth is, Obama won the election because most of those who voted for him want free stuff. Here is a TYPICAL OBAMA SUPPORTER wanting free stuff and gives her support to Obama‘s Marxist Free Stuff Party.
BTW, did you miss the statistics in POST NO. 26 regarding the millions of immigrant households with children who are on welfare getting Free Stuff? Who do they vote for?
For Jindal to ignore the Marxist Free Stuff Party is to be complicit in giving aid and comfort to those who are destroying our country from within! Are we to simply ignore how countless nation’s have fallen?
A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to selfishness;
From selfishness to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.
____ Author unknown
John Adams, a primary force during the American Revolutionary period was absolutely correct when he stated: "democracy will envy all, contend with all, endeavor to pull down all; and when by chance it happens to get the upper hand for a short time, it will be revengeful, bloody, and cruel..."
JWK
If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon an Obama, welfare, food stamp, section 8 housing, college loan check, and now free Obamacare, we can then bribe them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ____ Obama’s Marxist Free Stuff Party, a Party to establish a federal dictatorship and redistribute the incomes which wage earners, business and investors have worked to create.
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Saw the Jindal clip this AM. He seems sincere. I always got the impression with him that he was only mouthing the more wingnutty views and was a much more pragmatic, moderate thinker. Hope so. Oh and Bobby, lose the flip, you're a grown man, get a grown man haircut.
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Too bad Jindal is not willing to addres a very real issue.
"Obama’s Free Stuff Party cannot exist unless there is a captive and majority voting block dependent upon government for their subsistence [food stamps, government subsidized public and private housing, free healthcare care, free condoms, birth control pills and abortions, monthly welfare checks, Pell Grants etc.] which Obama uses to bribe specifically identified groups of voters. We were warned about this so called “gimmick” in Federalist No. 79: A POWER OVER A MAN's SUBSISTENCE AMOUNTS TO A POWER OVER HIS WILL. Is Jindal suggesting Hamilton did not know what he was talking about?
There is no federal “safety net“. It is a hammock carefully designed by Marxists to lull a freedom loving nation into a state of dependency and then into a state of servitude, when a majority of voters find they are compelled to use their vote to purchase what was once thought to be free stuff."
The stats I pointed to give an example of a specific group of voters which Obama bribed with free stuff. How about women? Were they too not bribed by Obama with free condoms, birth control pills and abortions? And how about college aged voters? Were they not bribed with federal Pell Grants and federal loans?
i can't figure out why Jindal is unwilling to address the Marxist Free Stuff Party's use of briberty to keep themselves in power.
JWK
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My take, Romney was looking to give free stuff to the top 5%.
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Although Bobby made some very good points ~ all it really means is that he wants to put some distance between himself, Romney, and the "It's my turn!" leadership in the GOP, and do it ASAP. And why? Because he wants to run in 2016 and is trying to get an early start on pretending to be a moderate.
In reality ~ he'll probably become little more than Santorum's running mate, only to lose to the Hillary~Cuomo or Hillary~O'Malley Democrat Party ticket which will precede the next round of secession talk from the extreme right who tend to console themselves by doing that.
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And? What on earth does that have to do with a nation’s election being won by voters who vote for free stuff. Are you not concerned where free stuff voters will take the nation?
A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to selfishness;
From selfishness to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.
_____ Author unknown
JWK
There is no federal “safety net“. It is a hammock carefully designed by Marxists to lull a freedom loving nation into a state of dependency and then into a state of servitude, at which time the majority of voters find they are compelled to use their vote to purchase what was once thought to be free stuff.
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You mean like Obama did by taxing hard working people living in our nation’s inner cities and transferring their earnings to his pals running a green energy industrial complex scam [Solyndra/Chevy Volt/Fisker, Exelon, etc.]? Is this not outright robbery and a form of slavery?
JWK
"To lay with one hand the power of the government on the property of the citizen and with the other to bestow upon favored individuals, to aid private enterprises and build up private fortunes [Obama’s Solyndra, Chevy Volt, Fisker, Exelon swindling deals] is none the less a robbery because it is done under forms of law and called taxation." ____ Savings and Loan Assc. v. Topeka,(1875).
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Obama's list of FREE STUFF
Governor Jindal's recent remark about free stuff not being at the core of Obama's re-election shows he is not in touch with how our nation is going down the sewer which is caused by people voting for free stuff. And it has nothing to do with economic class! It’s an across the board inspired national suicide!
Jindal rejected Romney's assertion that Obama won because of free stuff, and said “those types of notions do not represent who Republicans are as a party.”
So, let us take a look at a partial list of free stuff targeted at identifiable groups by Obama ___ food stamps, government subsidized public and private housing, free healthcare care, free condoms, birth control pills and abortions, monthly welfare checks, Pell Grants etc.
And when it comes to parasitic union thugs, it was a bailout to fund their unsustainable pension fund.
And with regard to free stuff for Obama’s pals in the “private sector” it was billions upon billions of dollars looted from our federal treasury which found its way into the pockets of Obama’s pals running a green energy industrial complex scam. Here is a partial list involved in that scam:
• Beacon Power Corp: Received $43 million in federal loan guaranteed in 2009 and also received $29 million in PA grants – Bankrupt in October 2011
• Ener1 (parent company of EnerDel): Received $118.5 million in federal loan guarantees — Bankrupt in January 2012 – has since exited bankruptcy
• Evergreen Solar: Received $58 million in MA loan guarantees (an undisclosed portion sourced from federal ARRA block grant) — Bankrupt in August 2011 with $485.6 million in debt
• Solyndra: Received $535 million in federal loan guarantees in 2009 and $25.1 million in CA tax credit — Bankrupt in August 2011
• SpectraWatt: Received $500,000 in federal loan guarantees in 2009 — Bankrupt in August 2011
• Babcock and Brown: Received $178 million in federal grants in December 2009 (4 months after it went bust) – Bankrupt in early 2009
• Mountain Plaza Inc.: Received $424,000 in federal grants through TN Department of Transportation in 2009 — Bankrupt in 2003 and again in June 2010
• Solar Trust of America (parent company: Solar Millennium): Received $2.1 billion loan guarantee in April 2011 – Bankrupt in April 2012
Other Subsidized Green Energy Companies in decline:
• A123: Received $300 million in federal grants and $135 million in MI grants — Declining orders and have forced multiple layoffs
• Amonix, Inc.: Received $5.9 million in federal tax credits in 2009 through ARRA — Laid off 2/3 of work force
• First Solar: Received $3 billion in federal loan guarantees — Biggest S&P loser in 2011, CEO fired
• Fisker Automotive: $529 million in federal loan guarantees — Multiple 2012 sales prediction downgrades for first car release, delivery and cash flow troubles; Assembling cars in Finland
• Johnson Controls: Received $299 million in federal grants in 2009 — Low demand caused cancellation of a new factory, operating at half capacity
• Nevada Geothermal: Received $98.5 million in federal loan guarantees in 2009 — Defaulting on long-term debt obligations, 85% drop in stock value
• Sun Power: Received $1.2 billion in federal loan guarantees — Debt exceeds assets; French oil company took over last fall
• Abound Solar: Received $400 million in federal loans in 2012 — ½ work force laid off
• BrightSource Energy: $1.6 billion federal loan approved in April 2012 – loan obtained through political connections with the administration; absent the loan, Brightsource’s solar power purchase would have fallen through.
see:Green Energy’s Bankruptcy Blackout
Now, my question is, why do hard working wage earning voters in our nation’s inner cities continue to support Obama who is plundering our national treasury, robbing their earned wages, and transferring them to his pals running a green energy industrial complex scam?
JWK
"To lay with one hand the power of the government on the property of the citizen and with the other to bestow upon favored individuals, to aid private enterprises and build up private fortunes [Obama’s Solyndra, Chevy Volt, Fisker, Exelon swindling deals] is none the less a robbery because it is done under forms of law and called taxation." ____ Savings and Loan Assc. v. Topeka,(1875).
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Governor Jindal lies or is stupid
Those who protest so loudly, including Governor Jindal, that Obama’s re-election was not about Free Stuff, exhibit their disingenuousness by how loudly they protest. Are we to believe them over our founding fathers?
A POWER OVER A MAN's SUBSISTENCE AMOUNTS TO A POWER OVER HIS WILL ____ Hamilton, No. 79 Federalist Papers
The fact is, Obama’s Marxist Free Stuff Party ringleaders went out of their way to get free stuff voters registered to vote!
For example see: Swing states pushed to aid voter signups in welfare offices
Bloomberg News
Aug. 23, 2012,
Pennsylvania, a presidential battleground, is joining at least 15 other states that have agreed to make it easier for welfare recipients to register to vote in agency offices.
Also see: Brown criticizes voter mailings
August 09, 2012|By Peter Schworm, Globe Staff
Senator Scott Brown criticized the state’s welfare department Wednesday for sending voter registration forms to 478,000 people on public assistance, contending that the mass mailing was a ploy to boost the ranks of Democratic voters and help rival Elizabeth Warren’s election bid.
The first step under our Marxist Free Stuff Party was to get as many people as possible dependent upon government for their subsistence which began under the progressive’s push for Social Security. The next step was to have working people’s pay checks taxed directly which was accomplished under the Temporary Victory Tax of 1942 [un-constitutional and still being collected] and started the federal governments ability to tax working people into poverty, and, also start the class warfare game. And then other things were slowly added along the way to the Free Stuff List like food stamps, Medicare, federal welfare, federally subsidies housing, Pell Grants, etc., And during the past two elections our Marxist Free Stuff Party‘s ringleaders, confident a majority of people eligible to vote were dependent upon the federal government for their subsistence, used every resources available, including federal force, to make certain its dependent voting block got registered and out to vote.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out how Marxists work. The problem is, Jindal will not confront this problem head on and actually pretends a Free Stuff Vote was not behind Obama’s win. Either he is totally stupid, or a mole working for our Marxist Free Stuff Party, just like countless RINOs are which includes our Speaker of the House and its Majority Speaker, both of whom are big on their ‘conservative” rhetoric, but constantly help to grow the federal government.
JWK
If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon an Obama, welfare, food stamp, section 8 housing, college loan check, and now free Obamacare, we can then bribe them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ____ Obama’s Marxist Free Stuff Party, which is designed to establish a federal dictatorship and redistribute the incomes which wage earners, business and investors have worked to create.
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It’s not about free stuff? Well, HERE IS A TYPICAL FEMALE OBAMA SUPPORTER wanting free stuff.
And here is another female Obama supporter also wanting FREE BACON for prostituting her vote to Obama, as did her constituents.
Why is prostitution so enticing among so many female voters? But don’t get me wrong. I also would like to know why do so many males prostitute their vote for free stuff?
JWK
If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon an Obama, welfare, food stamp, section 8 housing, college loan check, and now free Obamacare, we can blackmail them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ____ Obama’s Marxist Free Stuff Party, which is designed to establish a federal dictatorship and redistribute the incomes which wage earners, business and investors have worked to create.
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Jindal is pretty smart for a Republican. Think about it, who doesn't want free stuff?picardfacepalm.com/picard-facepalm-hotlink.jpg
Last edited by Grindelwald; 03-18-2013 at 08:03 PM.
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Jindal has designs on higher callings. Why burn bridges on the way there.
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If he can’t or wont tell the truth about people voting to get free stuff, you can bet he has already burned his bridges.
JWK
If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon an Obama, welfare, food stamp, section 8 housing, college loan check, and now free Obamacare along with FREE BACON, we can blackmail them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ____ Obama’s Marxist Free Stuff Party, which is designed to establish a federal dictatorship and redistribute the incomes which wage earners, business and investors have worked to create.
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