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    Default Minnesota boy denied confirmation for same-sex marriage support

    Catholic Bishop says he can be confirmed when he renounces his support for SSM


    The parents of a teenage boy in the Diocese of Crookston (Minnesota) told the Fargo Forum that their parish priest has denied the Sacrament of Confirmation to their son, Lennon Cihak, because of his Facebook post in support of same-sex marriage.

    Father Gary LaMoine of Assumption Church in Barnesville denied the family’s charge but would not elaborate.

    “They’re my parishioners, and so when the press comes after me from different points of view and asks me all types of questions about their situation, I hesitate very much because I owe them, I owe that family confidentiality,” he said.
    Maybe Lennon should think twice about joining an organization that takes a strong exception to his beliefs.
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    Well, they must know the church is against ssm. So don't join and expect them to change their values to accommodate you.

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    Not really sure why this is news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by overtaxed View Post
    Well, they must know the church is against ssm. So don't join and expect them to change their values to accommodate you.

    Excellent post.

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    once again, the militant gay movement gets what they want, then demands more.....

    it will never be enough, no matter how people are forced to accomodate their demands, they will just demand more. See, when your entire movement--albeit a teeny tiny fringe of the population--is based on being professional victims, satisfaction is not in the vocabulary.

    God forbid they NOt get their way, then they act like petulent children, whining and venue shopping for lawsuits, demogauging those they percieve as threats to their agenda.

    While not a Catholic, nor a Cathloic church supporter as a whole, I do commend those who are sticking to their religious principals.

    enter personal and Catholic attacks in 3...2....1....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggSeth View Post
    once again, the militant gay movement gets what they want, then demands more.....

    it will never be enough, no matter how people are forced to accomodate their demands, they will just demand more. See, when your entire movement--albeit a teeny tiny fringe of the population--is based on being professional victims, satisfaction is not in the vocabulary.

    God forbid they NOt get their way, then they act like petulent children, whining and venue shopping for lawsuits, demogauging those they percieve as threats to their agenda.

    While not a Catholic, nor a Cathloic church supporter as a whole, I do commend those who are sticking to their religious principals.

    enter personal and Catholic attacks in 3...2....1....

    You are 100% correct which is why I oppose SSM. I KNOW it's only a matter of time before the issue becomes forcing organized religions to recognize SSM.

    The whole thing has no end....as you said, professional victims.

    Look what happened to Boston's St. Patrick's Day Parade.

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    Meh, maybe he should consider something else. :shrug:

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggSeth View Post
    once again, the militant gay movement gets what they want, then demands more.....

    it will never be enough, no matter how people are forced to accomodate their demands, they will just demand more. See, when your entire movement--albeit a teeny tiny fringe of the population--is based on being professional victims, satisfaction is not in the vocabulary.

    God forbid they NOt get their way, then they act like petulent children, whining and venue shopping for lawsuits, demogauging those they percieve as threats to their agenda.

    While not a Catholic, nor a Cathloic church supporter as a whole, I do commend those who are sticking to their religious principals.

    enter personal and Catholic attacks in 3...2....1....
    Gee, maybe if you actually read my post, you'd see that I said he should think twice about joining the church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne68 View Post
    You are 100% correct which is why I oppose SSM. I KNOW it's only a matter of time before the issue becomes forcing organized religions to recognize SSM.

    The whole thing has no end....as you said, professional victims.

    Look what happened to Boston's St. Patrick's Day Parade.
    But, it's OK for Catholics to force their religious beliefs on the population. You yourself have stated you don't believe in religious freedom for some people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    But, it's OK for Catholics to force their religious beliefs on the population. You yourself have stated you don't believe in religious freedom for some people.
    How have Catholics forced their religious beliefs on the population?

    I was raised Catholic. I disagreed with the Church as an young adult. I then quit the club and went my own way.

    It's as simple as that.

    And though I have personal moral reservations about abortion as it is preached and practiced in this country, I support birth control, family planning, and gay rights, among a great many other things the Church probably frowns on. And the Church’s position on these issues hasn’t weighed on my conscience one bit since I resigned my status as a card carrying Roman Catholic, let alone forced itself upon me in any measurable way.

    Of course I may not receive the sacraments any longer, but that's my choice. I'm the one that must bend if I should suddenly turn Catholic again after getting hit in the arse by a lightening bolt from God or something as inspirational as ta burning bush or whatever. But I suspect God is Jewish, not Roman Catholic, so I don't expect any winter of my discontent jolts. But you never know.

    Anyway...

    I don't see a problem.

    However, if you are referring to the Church’s right to speak out against these issues and attempt to influence public sentiment, then all I can say is that it is a free country and that the Church has as much right to be against them as we have to be for them.

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    Next you'll see a black kid mad that the KKK wouldn't let him join.

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    Bullmikey--

    Well, the Catholic Church was very active in opposing the legalization of same-sex marriage here in Maryland. Why don't they try to impose their view of divorced people getting married on the general population? It doesn't seem to be consistent.
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    Churches need to dissapear.

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    Churches aren't going to disappear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    Bullmikey--

    Well, the Catholic Church was very active in opposing the legalization of same-sex marriage here in Maryland. Why don't they try to impose their view of divorced people getting married on the general population? It doesn't seem to be consistent.
    I don't know. I guess they choose their battles.

    Anyway, I figure they have as much right to be activists as anyone else. Besides, seems to me, not too many people, even those claiming to be good Catholics (thought I sometimes wonder about that), listen to the Church anymore.

    Looks like the momentum for gay marriage is shifting onto the pro side to me. But let’s face it, the Church is bound up defending some two thousand years’ worth of bad decisions (265 infallible popes are not so easy to live down,; every new pope must live, think, and breathe in the shadows of his predecessors), so it’s about as flexible as stone when it comes to changing with the times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullmikey View Post
    I don't know. I guess they choose their battles.

    Anyway, I figure they have as much right to be activists as anyone else. Besides, seems to me, not too many people, even those claiming to be good Catholics (thought I sometimes wonder about that), listen to the Church anymore.

    Looks like the momentum for gay marriage is shifting onto the pro side to me. But let’s face it, the Church is bound up defending some two thousand years’ worth of bad decisions (265 infallible popes are not so easy to live down,; every new pope must live, think, and breathe in the shadows of his predecessors), so it’s about as flexible as stone when it comes to changing with the times.
    Ther Catholic Church lost all credibility (and the right to try and dictate parishoner behavior) during the pedophile cover up business....

    I saw a recent poll that upwards of 70-80 % of parishoners vote without considering church recommendations...

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