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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Whoa ! She was supposed to keep the fact that I was satisfying her on the side a secret.

    Oh well, I guess you just can't trust a chick who marries a Pig 10'er...

    Guess chicks are attracted to bad boys who live in a trailer park?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post
    slap I have tremondous respect for you.
    Why ?

    I didn't realize it until today, but this guy's a serious freakin' dweeb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapshot View Post
    Guess chicks are attracted to bad boys who live in a trailer park?
    Only when their elementary school Pig 10 "educated" husbands can't take care of business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post
    slap I have tremondous respect for you. I said and still maintain if this was truly in the best financial interest of the school I could get behind it but I don't know. This was done in secret and rushed. When Notre Dame of Maryland and Loyola changed there names they consulted with all stakeholders and did it publiclly. They should have done that here. They should have been honest and showed everyone the data to back up the conclusion. By the presidents own admission this was done in secret. I suspect because of the fear of backlash. Guess what if there was tranparency then people would have found it more palateable. This was a blind side, disloyal and stinks! As a taxpayer I am further offended at the spending of 50 million to drop out alone. 50 million is half the projected budget shortfall if the sequester goes through!! There is no garuntee the ACC is going to lower it and in light of how this went down they probably might not!

    Thanks. This came as a complete surprise to those in the BiG, as well. No idea how long this has been in the works. I suspect for some time, and was kept hush hush to keep it from being derailed. But I have to believe that the real power brokers at Md, the people with clout, and with financial means, were kept in the loop, and were on board.

    Financially, md will be much better off in the Big, than in the Big East Light. I am 100% sure of that. As to the other factors, I can't say? I do believe that football might be revived at md, with the likes of PSU, Mich, Nebraska and OSU coming to CP on a regular basis. Big names usually create big buzz on campus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Why ?

    I didn't realize it until today, but this guy's a serious freakin' dweeb.
    Lol. So says the child who acts like a 5 year old, who is so upset at the news, he's gonna "piss on his Maryland memorabilia"...

    Classy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapshot View Post
    True. But that's not what you originally said.
    When your best argument about a subject is a semantic one, you have no argument to make. The loss of history sucks. Period.

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    With respect to academics, I don't understand why research-oriented ACC members didn't form their very own academic consortium years ago. You've got schools like UMD, UVA, UNC, Duke, GTech and incoming member Pitt that conduct substantial research. An east coast research consortium could very well include Carnegie-Mellon, Johns Hopkins, Emory and even Florida.

    Btw, did UMD consisder refinancing the debt, taking advantage of lower interest rates while spreading out the principal and interest payments over a longer period?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slidemaster View Post
    When your best argument about a subject is a semantic one, you have no argument to make. The loss of history sucks. Period.
    Did you read Feintein's article in today's Washington Post? Spot on.

    Here is a clip (from Feinstein) -

    "Those who will decry the loss of tradition and longstanding rivalries should look around. One of Maryland’s biggest problems competitively is that it doesn’t have a true arch rival. Have you ever heard a recruit in any sport say, “I chose Maryland for the chance to play in the Maryland-Virginia game every year?”

    No. As for Duke and North Carolina being rivals in basketball, there are a couple of issues. To begin with, the two schools look at each other, not at Maryland, as their primary rival. Second, when Gary Williams made Maryland-Duke and Maryland-North Carolina basketball games important, the Terrapins were playing four games annually against the two schools, and frequently five and occasionally six games. Now, in the expanded ACC, one or the other will come to Comcast Center each season. Period. Frequency of competition makes rivalries great in basketball. It can’t happen for Maryland anymore in the John Swofford-redesigned ACC, where Maryland basketball is guaranteed two annual games only with Pittsburgh, which the Terrapins have faced all of seven times."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arslan View Post
    With respect to academics, I don't understand why research-oriented ACC members didn't form their very own academic consortium years ago. You've got schools like UMD, UVA, UNC, Duke, GTech and incoming member Pitt that conduct substantial research. An east coast research consortium could very well include Carnegie-Mellon, Johns Hopkins, Emory and even Florida.
    I can't speak to the biological sciences, but UVA, duke, UNC, and to some degree, gatech are weak in many of the phyical sciences, like physics and chemistry. Maryland is the power school in these disciplines. But schools like Purdue (last year's Noble Prize in Chemistry), Illinois (5 Noble Prize winners in physics - including the founding fathers of the laser and transistor), Michigan (2 noble prize winners in physics) form a very powerful research consortium. In engineering, look at the top 10 engineering programs. GaTech is there, but so is Purdue, Illinois and Michigan.

    Some of the top super computers at universities, are found on big ten campuses:

    http://chronicle.com/article/In-Univ...puting/126979/

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapshot View Post
    So don't buy tickets. Easy fix.

    We all pay taxes...your point?
    Is it still true UMCP has the highest percentage of seats set aside for out of state students ($$$$$) of any flagship university? They did as of 2010.

    Selling out is nothing new to Maryland...except when it comes to home football games or when the basketball team isn't good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapshot View Post
    I can't speak to the biological sciences, but UVA, duke, UNC, and to some degree, gatech are weak in many of the phyical sciences, like physics and chemistry. Maryland is the power school in these disciplines. But schools like Purdue (last year's Noble Prize in Chemistry), Illinois (5 Noble Prize winners in physics - including the founding fathers of the laser and transistor), Michigan (2 noble prize winners in physics) form a very powerful research consortium. In engineering, look at the top 10 engineering programs. GaTech is there, but so is Purdue, Illinois and Michigan.
    The guy that invented The Muppets went to Maryland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brohan View Post
    Is it still true UMCP has the highest percentage of seats set aside for out of state students ($$$$$) of any flagship university? They did as of 2010.

    Selling out is nothing new to Maryland...except when it comes to home football games or when the basketball team isn't good.
    I don't know if it's the highest, but I do know it's very high. As a tax payer, this bothers me. All driven by money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brohan View Post
    The guy that invented The Muppets went to Maryland.
    That made me laugh...but my kids like the muppets. It's cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapshot View Post
    Thanks. This came as a complete surprise to those in the BiG, as well. No idea how long this has been in the works. I suspect for some time, and was kept hush hush to keep it from being derailed. But I have to believe that the real power brokers at Md, the people with clout, and with financial means, were kept in the loop, and were on board.

    Financially, md will be much better off in the Big, than in the Big East Light. I am 100% sure of that. As to the other factors, I can't say? I do believe that football might be revived at md, with the likes of PSU, Mich, Nebraska and OSU coming to CP on a regular basis. Big names usually create big buzz on campus.
    But if they had done this transparent and are honest now it would not have been derailed. Instead they openly violated the open meetings act and blind sided most of the stake holders. This says nothing of how the GA might seek some retibution!

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    The House Minority Whip, Steny Hoyer, went to Maryland too! Jim Walton, Connie Chung, and Carl Bernstien

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post
    But if they had done this transparent and are honest now it would not have been derailed. Instead they openly violated the open meetings act and blind sided most of the stake holders. This says nothing of how the GA might seek some retibution!
    I won't disagree with this, except to say - the more people know about sensitive negotiations, the longer they drag on, the better the chance they will fall flat.

    My son works in mergers, and he said as soon as thy begin to talk, they put a clamp on all information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post
    The House Minority Whip, Steny Hoyer, went to Maryland too! Jim Walton, Connie Chung, and Carl Bernstien
    Sergey Brin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapshot View Post
    I can't speak to the biological sciences, but UVA, duke, UNC, and to some degree, gatech are weak in many of the phyical sciences, like physics and chemistry. Maryland is the power school in these disciplines. But schools like Purdue (last year's Noble Prize in Chemistry), Illinois (5 Noble Prize winners in physics - including the founding fathers of the laser and transistor), Michigan (2 noble prize winners in physics) form a very powerful research consortium. In engineering, look at the top 10 engineering programs. GaTech is there, but so is Purdue, Illinois and Michigan.

    Some of the top super computers at universities, are found on big ten campuses:

    http://chronicle.com/article/In-Univ...puting/126979/
    Could very well be that the UMD is anticipating a steep reduction of federal research dollars and is using its leverage to become a member of CIC.

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    More on the impact on the lacrosse programs

    It's the men's side of the ACC and the Big East that would lose the AQ, the women's side would have enough teams.

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    Who knew Dave Cottle was so sentimental? Hahahahaha.


    The ACC had 4 lacrosse teams, no AQ for a billion years....this moveis no big deal at all from a lacrosse POV.

    If anything is strenthens the Big 10 conf...acc is fine with it's tradition lawless thug programs like Duke and Uva.

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