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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    Who said that?
    Who said that? OMG...are you SERIOUS DUDE?!!! There's been nothing BUT those sort of posts week after week after week, both on this board and on the other Sun board, from writers and fans alike.

    Sometimes your posts just really make me go: "Hmmmmmmmmmmm...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by West Chester Raven View Post
    The original post is silly. Rice, while not perfect, is a Pro-Bowl Running Back. Teams will game plan for him and key on him as we saw in Pittsburgh. Th trouble is that we had no answer. You stop Rice, you can really slow the Ravens down.
    OCF is making am attempt at pretending that Joe wasn't the primary problem last night. He wasn't making reads, just throwing into a spot. He threw to T. Smith into double coverage at least twice. It's as if he can't scan the field and look for secondary targets. Hopefully he plays better in the next game at home.
    He better play better in the next ROAD game at SD or very well could be another road loss even as bad as they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha Beach View Post
    He better play better in the next ROAD game at SD or very well could be another road loss even as bad as they are.
    We have to be able to make teams pay when they take away the run. That means sticking with the threat of the run - but hitting 2nd and 3rd options in the passing game. Boldin got the ball more last night, but our passing offense is going to have to step up. We're going to have to be able to hit on 2nd & 3rd passing options.
    Last night Joe wasn't able to do that. He wasn't comfortable and didn't seem confident. Those are just the facts and any unbiased viewer would agree. Just read some national articles. He stunk on the road - again. He better snap out of it next week - remember what happened last year out there? It was a disaster.

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    By comparison -- through 10 games, Willis McGahee, Ray Rice's former backup RB, has 731 rushing yards, compared to Ray Rice's 697.

    Oh, and for those wondering, the Charger's Defense is ranked #3 against the run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by West Chester Raven View Post
    He stunk on the road - again. He better snap out of it next week - remember what happened last year out there? It was a disaster.
    Does Flacco have a multiple personality disorder? Joking of course but there has to be a reason he performs so differently on the road? Joe Flacco looked like he was in a trance last night. Seriously, why is that? The only thing I can think of is it has to be the game plan. If Flacco doesn't like what's being planned and called, he loses confidence. He looked lost last night. Harbaugh needs to find out - why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PEZ View Post
    By comparison -- through 10 games, Willis McGahee, Ray Rice's former backup RB, has 731 rushing yards, compared to Ray Rice's 697.

    Oh, and for those wondering, the Charger's Defense is ranked #3 against the run.
    The Bengals had no problem with them yesterday. Watch out for the Cincinnati Bengals. They are much improved and still have a viable shot for a wild card.

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    What I don't understand is why when we need a yard, EVERY TIME we hand it to a 5'6" guy, when we have a 250 pound Leach, or even Bernard Pierce to give it to. The failure rate for that play in that situation has to be in the 90% range. Or for that matter why we throw a 3 yard pass when we need seven, or a bubble screen to the WR on 3rd and 13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigercruise View Post
    Does Flacco have a multiple personality disorder? Joking of course but there has to be a reason he performs so differently on the road? Joe Flacco looked like he was in a trance last night. Seriously, why is that? The only thing I can think of is it has to be the game plan. If Flacco doesn't like what's being planned and called, he loses confidence. He looked lost last night. Harbaugh needs to find out - why?
    Exactly. And at the end of the game he was walking around like, "What just happened?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalColtsFan View Post
    Who said that? OMG...are you SERIOUS DUDE?!!! There's been nothing BUT those sort of posts week after week after week, both on this board and on the other Sun board, from writers and fans alike.

    Sometimes your posts just really make me go: "Hmmmmmmmmmmm...."
    No, the posts week after week say you can't leave Rice out of the equation, not that he's the answer all by himself. Cam's play calling is the problem. It became quite obvious early on that the Steelers defense weren't allowing Rice to run up the middle on them. A smart D coordinator adjusts to that. You run more outside stuff, you run screens, you run passes in the flat. Cam never did. Ray Rice isn't the problem with this team

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    the gloom and doom here is amazing...now we are back to reading facial expressions...not that the Ravens have won the last 3!!!!! regular season games in Pitts with Flacco at QB...nope, not good enough....now everyone is afraid of the totally imploding Chargers.....

    the Steelers defense is pretty good, you know...they took Smith out of the game and when Pitta went down the passing game suffered....

    why don't you all petition the elague and ask them to award the win to Pittsburgh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    No, the posts week after week say you can't leave Rice out of the equation, not that he's the answer all by himself. Cam's play calling is the problem. It became quite obvious early on that the Steelers defense weren't allowing Rice to run up the middle on them. A smart D coordinator adjusts to that. You run more outside stuff, you run screens, you run passes in the flat. Cam never did. Ray Rice isn't the problem with this team
    No. Posts week after week have been entitled: "RUN RUN RUN". "THE OFFENSE IS RAY RICE, NOT JOE FLACCO". Over. And Over. And Over. I don't know what you've been reading or comprehending of what you've been reading, but you're way off on this one. I'VE been one of the few people posting that the Ravens need a balanced, creative offense, not just RUN RUN RUN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by can you hear me now! View Post
    the gloom and doom here is amazing...now we are back to reading facial expressions...not that the Ravens have won the last 3!!!!! regular season games in Pitts with Flacco at QB...nope, not good enough....now everyone is afraid of the totally imploding Chargers.....

    the Steelers defense is pretty good, you know...they took Smith out of the game and when Pitta went down the passing game suffered....

    why don't you all petition the elague and ask them to award the win to Pittsburgh...
    So on the other post, you have no problem saying Cam should be gone. Yet on this post, you're whining about a critical analysis of another aspect of the game plan. Wow. Just wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalColtsFan View Post
    So on the other post, you have no problem saying Cam should be gone. Yet on this post, you're whining about a critical analysis of another aspect of the game plan. Wow. Just wow.
    no, what I am pointing out is no matter how they win, people are unhappy...don't run enough, run too much, don't pass enoug, pass too much...

    and today we have my favorite..Flacco isn't emotional enough...that's my point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by can you hear me now! View Post
    no, what I am pointing out is no matter how they win, people are unhappy...don't run enough, run too much, don't pass enoug, pass too much...

    and today we have my favorite..Flacco isn't emotional enough...that's my point...
    1. Have you NOT been reading for weeks now -- from sports writers and fans -- that the Ravens have to give Rice 20-25 touches or else the Ravens won't win by relying just on Flacco?
    2. Since Rice GOT his 25 touches, I posted the stats to show exactly how that worked out.
    3. Is that NOT a legitimate topic for a Ravens forum, regardless of whether it follows a win or a loss?

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    They should have mixed Ray in with Pierce more and also used Leach who I never saw and figured was hurt (everybody else last night seemed to be ...Pitta's loss really hurts). I actually think they ran too much.

    I'll take the win anytime but Cam's offense is about as imaginative as Ted Marchabroda's!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIKMAN View Post
    I'll take the win anytime but Cam's offense is about as imaginative as Ted Marchabroda's!
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    This!

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    Quote Originally Posted by can you hear me now! View Post
    no, what I am pointing out is no matter how they win, people are unhappy...don't run enough, run too much, don't pass enoug, pass too much...

    and today we have my favorite..Flacco isn't emotional enough...that's my point...
    The opposing defenses have been able to make pretty good calculated presumptions with the Ravens' offensive schemes. Seemingly, the defenses know the calls before they happen. There are four possible reasons for this:

    1. The Ravens are not varying their offensive game plan enough from week to week and do not deviate from their normal tendencies. Who doesn't know what the Ravens would call on a 3rd and two about 90% of the time?

    2. Players are tipping the plays and counts, etc. Maybe certain players give the plays away by putting more pressure on their right hand, or lean a certain way, etc.

    3. The players are just inferior to their opponents and, thus, are just overwhelmed. Great plans can be under-appreciated with poor execution. If just one player misses his blocking assignment, the whole offensive play could be compromised.

    4. Something underhanded is going on by the other team. This could be done by using spies, mikes, etc. to hone in on the plays. This is the least-likely possible reason IMHO, but we do remember Patriot-gate a few years ago, so it cannot be completely ruled out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalColtsFan View Post
    1. Have you NOT been reading for weeks now -- from sports writers and fans -- that the Ravens have to give Rice 20-25 touches or else the Ravens won't win by relying just on Flacco?
    2. Since Rice GOT his 25 touches, I posted the stats to show exactly how that worked out.
    3. Is that NOT a legitimate topic for a Ravens forum, regardless of whether it follows a win or a loss?
    The Ravens followed the formula and won. Not sure what you are complaining about. He had 25 touches for a little less then 100 yeards. Sounds good to me. I will take that and the win each time. Lets not forget the Steelers have the #1 Defense in football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dub View Post
    The Ravens followed the formula and won. Not sure what you are complaining about. He had 25 touches for a little less then 100 yeards. Sounds good to me. I will take that and the win each time. Lets not forget the Steelers have the #1 Defense in football.
    I'll take the win but you can't depend on a PR for a td every game. That game could have easily been a loss and you're right about the PIT defense

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    Congrats to Cam and Rice on running over the Steelers for another win! What's the make, 4 in a row.

    Cam owns the Steelers!

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