3rd and 2 and this is the best Cam can come up with

[OriginalColtsFan]

look another whiny troll post complete with personal attack....wow, just an epic fail on your part..again....and again...and again..and again...

and of course the necessary shot at the QB....please explain limited...may be you can get to that right after you define "much"....you see to be all talk and very little if any substance...again...and again....and again...and again....

What can I say? When you're right, you're right.



(And let me make one point perfectly clear: at no point have I ever said that Joe is perfect, or that Cam is "evil". Joe has his limitations (i.e. sometimes he appears to be a little slow to react to what's going on with defenses), and Cam has his strengths (i.e. he's good with young QBs starting out in the NFL). However, of the two, Joe is capable of leading a team to a super bowl; Cameron, because of his fearful and inflexible nature, is not. But those are only my opinions. After all, this is a sports message board, whose purported purpose is to express one's opinions. Where things get murky is when people with hidden agendas use sports message boards to try to shape and influence public opinion. And it's naive to assume that when we're talking about a multi-billion dollar enterprise that such "opinion shaping" (i.e. shills) does not exist.)

[SNAFU]

The Ravens weren't going anywhere on short yardage runs so they figured a pass was their best hope. But Flacco was to make that pass only if it was completely wide open.

Well, Torrey Smith was completely wide open, so why didn't Flacco make the pass? I was waiting for 'Hey diddle diddle, Rice up the middle'. Not to be in an obvious situation.

[NYCRavenFAN]

The coaches felt we had the game under control......why risk anything at that point? You up the risk at the point you need to, not before.

[rick and roll]

What can I say? When you're right, you're right.



(And let me make one point perfectly clear: at no point have I ever said that Joe is perfect, or that Cam is "evil". Joe has his limitations (i.e. sometimes he appears to be a little slow to react to what's going on with defenses), and Cam has his strengths (i.e. he's good with young QBs starting out in the NFL). However, of the two, Joe is capable of leading a team to a super bowl; Cameron, because of his fearful and inflexible nature, is not. But those are only my opinions. After all, this is a sports message board, whose purported purpose is to express one's opinions. Where things get murky is when people with hidden agendas use sports message boards to try to shape and influence public opinion. And it's naive to assume that when we're talking about a multi-billion dollar enterprise that such "opinion shaping" (i.e. shills) does not exist.)

You are a piece of work. Let me chime in on the call first.

I hated the call. Even though we were stopped on a third and two, stone cold, a little earlier on a Rice run, I would have run it again. Try to make the first. That said, Joe could have passed, and the Steelers were giving us the pass, But he decided to play it safe. Do I agree? No. But it was the wise move given the call.

Your act is getting old. It's about your opinion, not anything personal. Don't make it about "you". When someone says "these are all opinions" it's code for "my argument has no basis". You may not like or agree with Cameron, but to say he is "fearful and inflexible" is ridiculous. What does he have to fear? You? Inflexible? Sure, he comes across as stubborn because everyone likes to whip on the coaches when something goes right, and never give them credit. But he is plenty flexible with the offense.

I think you're giving our O-Line and receivers (ability to get open) too much credit. Tell me what you would do differently - oh yes, I don't see any ideas. Just what you DON'T like.

Plays work or not 95 % of the time because of the players, not this nebulous "scheme".

[OriginalColtsFan]

You are a piece of work. Let me chime in on the call first.

I hated the call. Even though we were stopped on a third and two, stone cold, a little earlier on a Rice run, I would have run it again. Try to make the first. That said, Joe could have passed, and the Steelers were giving us the pass, But he decided to play it safe. Do I agree? No. But it was the wise move given the call.

Your act is getting old. It's about your opinion, not anything personal. Don't make it about "you". When someone says "these are all opinions" it's code for "my argument has no basis". You may not like or agree with Cameron, but to say he is "fearful and inflexible" is ridiculous. What does he have to fear? You? Inflexible? Sure, he comes across as stubborn because everyone likes to whip on the coaches when something goes right, and never give them credit. But he is plenty flexible with the offense.

I think you're giving our O-Line and receivers (ability to get open) too much credit. Tell me what you would do differently - oh yes, I don't see any ideas. Just what you DON'T like.

Plays work or not 95 % of the time because of the players, not this nebulous "scheme".

Perfect. 100% predictable. +1

[Rintrah]

Well, Torrey Smith was completely wide open, so why didn't Flacco make the pass? I was waiting for 'Hey diddle diddle, Rice up the middle'. Not to be in an obvious situation.

The QB doesn't have the same view of the play that you have from the TV camera. He has a progression of reads to go through and bodies all around him trying to bring him down. Smith looked to be the clearout for the short, quick pass they wanted to try over the middle.

[RavingManiac]

You are a piece of work. Let me chime in on the call first.

I hated the call. Even though we were stopped on a third and two, stone cold, a little earlier on a Rice run, I would have run it again. Try to make the first. That said, Joe could have passed, and the Steelers were giving us the pass, But he decided to play it safe. Do I agree? No. But it was the wise move given the call.

Your act is getting old. It's about your opinion, not anything personal. Don't make it about "you". When someone says "these are all opinions" it's code for "my argument has no basis". You may not like or agree with Cameron, but to say he is "fearful and inflexible" is ridiculous. What does he have to fear? You? Inflexible? Sure, he comes across as stubborn because everyone likes to whip on the coaches when something goes right, and never give them credit. But he is plenty flexible with the offense.

I think you're giving our O-Line and receivers (ability to get open) too much credit. Tell me what you would do differently - oh yes, I don't see any ideas. Just what you DON'T like.

Plays work or not 95 % of the time because of the players, not this nebulous "scheme".

Nice post. +1

[RavingManiac]

Well, Torrey Smith was completely wide open, so why didn't Flacco make the pass? I was waiting for 'Hey diddle diddle, Rice up the middle'. Not to be in an obvious situation.

If Torrey was wide open as you say, then it was a good call by Cam but the players did not execute.

[OriginalColtsFan]

Nice post. +1

Perfect. 100% predictable. +1

[Kawalimus]

The coaches felt we had the game under control......why risk anything at that point? You up the risk at the point you need to, not before.

Rushing on 3rd and 2 isn't much of a risk though, especially with an RB like Rice who rarely fumbles. A QB draw would have been a decent idea there. You don't get it, you don't get it. But trying is better than not trying.

And we didn't have the game in hand at that point. We had the game in hand after Mendenhall decided not to go out of bounds and ran off a ton of time for the Steelers. They had plenty of time to tie it up even with no timeouts, as they only needed a field goal.

[West Chester Raven]

look another whiny troll post complete with personal attack....wow, just an epic fail on your part..again....and again...and again..and again...

and of course the necessary shot at the QB....please explain limited...may be you can get to that right after you define "much"....you see to be all talk and very little if any substance...again...and again....and again...and again....

Whatever.

[AntiMoon]

I liked the call. We stink running on 3rd and short and if a pass isn't open you take the sack and use up 40 seconds.

[afan]

I liked the call. We stink running on 3rd and short and if a pass isn't open you take the sack and use up 40 seconds.

You do know this was a designed sack? It was not a pass at all. I really don't think any team should play prevent offense. No matter what a team should try for the 1st down and not play to loose

[RavingManiac]

you do know this was a designed sack? It was not a pass at all. I really don't think any team should play prevent offense. No matter what a team should try for the 1st down and not play to loose

lol!!!

[West Chester Raven]

You are a piece of work. Let me chime in on the call first.

I hated the call. Even though we were stopped on a third and two, stone cold, a little earlier on a Rice run, I would have run it again. Try to make the first. That said, Joe could have passed, and the Steelers were giving us the pass, But he decided to play it safe. Do I agree? No. But it was the wise move given the call.

Your act is getting old. It's about your opinion, not anything personal. Don't make it about "you". When someone says "these are all opinions" it's code for "my argument has no basis". You may not like or agree with Cameron, but to say he is "fearful and inflexible" is ridiculous. What does he have to fear? You? Inflexible? Sure, he comes across as stubborn because everyone likes to whip on the coaches when something goes right, and never give them credit. But he is plenty flexible with the offense.

I think you're giving our O-Line and receivers (ability to get open) too much credit. Tell me what you would do differently - oh yes, I don't see any ideas. Just what you DON'T like.

Plays work or not 95 % of the time because of the players, not this nebulous "scheme".

Great post. OCF is his biggest fan. Loves to try crush dissenting opinons. If you don't like the QB play for example, you have a personal agenda. But - that argument doesn't hold true if you criticize Cam or someone else OCF doesn't like. In OCF's world, it is all about him and his opinion.