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    Quote Originally Posted by Calamari View Post
    The answer given to this question reveals the person's attitude toward science, whether hostile or supportive.
    So basically the are no scientists who also happen to be Christian?

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    OK for the record pi is 3 with one significant figure. Likewise, pi is 3.14 with three significant figures. Pi is an irrational number so its exact value is unrepresentable in decimal or fractal form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MithrilKnight
    The Bible says when the Earth was created.
    And if you read all the "begats", they say how old people were and so you can add up the number of years until Christ was born - and then you know from there, obviously.
    Actually, the Bible doesn't give many specifics on time. It's pretty vague, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MithrilKnight View Post
    1) And what if a person is a Jew, Muslim, Hindu - would you still teach them a Christian belief?
    I just want to point out the the 7 days comes from Genesis, which is part of the Jewish Scripture that Christians also accept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRaven View Post
    So basically the are no scientists who also happen to be Christian?
    I think a fundamentalist Christian would be hard pressed to work as a scientist in any field. And, I don't think I'm wrong to say, it's fundamentalist Christians that want the Bible taught as a literal factual document in schools.

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    At the very least you'd be hard pressed to find a reputable geologist who thinks the earth was 6,000 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    I just want to point out the the 7 days comes from Genesis, which is part of the Jewish Scripture that Christians also accept.
    Muslims?
    Hindus?
    Buddhists?
    Agnostics?
    Atheists?
    The likely 1,000 other religions I've never heard of that have their own explanation of Creation and life and an afterlife - all as equally valid as Christianity since they're all based upon BELIEF and FAITH, and thus need no external objective measurable fact for validation?

    What about those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MithrilKnight View Post
    Muslims?
    Hindus?
    Buddhists?
    Agnostics?
    Atheists?
    The likely 1,000 other religions I've never heard of that have their own explanation of Creation and life and an afterlife - all as equally valid as Christianity since they're all based upon BELIEF and FAITH, and thus need no external objective measurable fact for validation?

    What about those?
    What about them? You obviously missed the point of my post, which challenged your assertion that Genesis is a Christian teaching but not a Jewish one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MithrilKnight View Post
    Muslims?
    Hindus?
    Buddhists?
    Agnostics?
    Atheists?
    The likely 1,000 other religions I've never heard of that have their own explanation of Creation and life and an afterlife - all as equally valid as Christianity since they're all based upon BELIEF and FAITH, and thus need no external objective measurable fact for validation?

    What about those?
    I'd say all of those beliefs that fall outside of conclusions reached by the scientific method are objectively wrong and deserving of derision.

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    Default A rare bit of fairness from Slate

    And here's then-Sen. Obama, D-Ill., speaking at the Compassion Forum at Messiah College in Grantham, Pa. on April 13, 2008:

    Q: Senator, if one of your daughters asked you—and maybe they already have—“Daddy, did god really create the world in 6 days?,” what would you say?

    A: What I've said to them is that I believe that God created the universe and that the six days in the Bible may not be six days as we understand it … it may not be 24-hour days, and that's what I believe. I know there's always a debate between those who read the Bible literally and those who don't, and I think it's a legitimate debate within the Christian community of which I'm a part. My belief is that the story that the Bible tells about God creating this magnificent Earth on which we live—that is essentially true, that is fundamentally true. Now, whether it happened exactly as we might understand it reading the text of the Bible: That, I don't presume to know.


    http://www.slate.com/articles/health...niverse.2.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMoore24
    And here's then-Sen. Obama, D-Ill., speaking at the Compassion Forum at Messiah College in Grantham, Pa. on April 13, 2008:

    Q: Senator, if one of your daughters asked you—and maybe they already have—“Daddy, did god really create the world in 6 days?,” what would you say?

    A: What I've said to them is that I believe that God created the universe and that the six days in the Bible may not be six days as we understand it … it may not be 24-hour days, and that's what I believe. I know there's always a debate between those who read the Bible literally and those who don't, and I think it's a legitimate debate within the Christian community of which I'm a part. My belief is that the story that the Bible tells about God creating this magnificent Earth on which we live—that is essentially true, that is fundamentally true. Now, whether it happened exactly as we might understand it reading the text of the Bible: That, I don't presume to know.
    What's wrong with what he said?

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    Update:

    "There is no scientific debate on the age of the Earth, it's established pretty definitively, it's at least 4.5 billion years old," he told Politico's Mike Allen at a Playbook breakfast Wednesday. "I was referring to a theological debate."
    "I'm not a theologian either," he told Allen on Wednesday. "To the extent that there is any kind of debate about the age of the Earth scientifically, I'm not in a position really to mediate that. But on the theological debate, the theological debate is how do you reconcile what science has established with what you may think your faith teaches."

    He said he isn't conflicted about possible discrepancies between the two views. In the Bible, God creates the universe in a seven-day period, and many Christians believe it is only about 6,000 years old. But he said it's possible to believe in both creationism and scientific proof that the Earth is much older.
    His comment to GQ on the age of the Earth was controversial, in part, because of a debate over whether children should be taught creationism in school, either instead of or in conjunction with science on the matter. Rubio said he believes science should be taught in school, but parents also have the right to teach their children about the Bible's version of the Earth's creation.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2244484.html

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    Yes, because those Gensis days are the same days we live now.

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    So Rubio picked up a fifth grade science book since he made a fool of himself in that original interview. Hey, it's progress, right?

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