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[Retired Ramp Guy]

Philosophically I agree with this as a stand on personal savings and investments. I would prefer to be able to invest some of what goes to SS on my own. That being said, what those who are intent on privatizing SS seem to willfully miss is that SS also provides for minor children of deceased parents who could not have paid in enough to a private plan to provide for their children before they died. SS does much more than just being a (poor) replacement for a retirement plan. Personally I can't think that the average American is going to want to say to those children "Sorry, sucks to be you".

.... so why use SS monies vs the general fund?

Late edit.......

How about having SS offer a plan to breakdown a part of your SS payment to "buy" insurance for things like coverage for your children upon your death... an separate offer to "buy" disability payment in case you need that coverage. By "buying" that special coverage your payment at 65 would be lower....

[bmore_ken]

May not be a ponzi scheme, but it isn't a very good savings plan in my opinion.

Who here would sign up with an independent plan and have them take your money for 40+ years and if you die before the age of 62 not allow YOU to specify who should receive you benefits?

I agree. I think it should be optional. But then no biatching to the government if you have no retirement income at 65. Americans in general are notoriously lousy when it comes to saving money.

[bmore_ken]

Philosophically I agree with this as a stand on personal savings and investments. I would prefer to be able to invest some of what goes to SS on my own. That being said, what those who are intent on privatizing SS seem to willfully miss is that SS also provides for minor children of deceased parents who could not have paid in enough to a private plan to provide for their children before they died. SS does much more than just being a (poor) replacement for a retirement plan. Personally I can't think that the average American is going to want to say to those children "Sorry, sucks to be you".

SS was never intended to be a retirement plan. so many people have that misconception

[dsummoner]

It's not a ponzi scheme at all, that's a right wing talking point. If you retire at 65 and start drawing ss retirement benefits, you'll receive more in benefits than you paid in if you live 10-15 years beyond that.

A legalized Ponzi scheme with forced participation it is.

[bmore_ken]

A legalized Ponzi scheme with forced participation it is.

Strictly your opinion and you're entitled to it

[dsummoner]

Strictly your opinion and you're entitled to it

My opinion is merely a manifestation of objective reality.

[bmore_ken]

My opinion is merely a manifestation of objective reality.

I know better than to go back and forth with you on something. So we can agree to disagree and you can feel free to have the last word

[dsummoner]

I know better than to go back and forth with you on something. So we can agree to disagree and you can feel free to have the last word

Happy (belated) Thanksgiving, my friend.

[AttackPlanR]

Walking over to the next mobile estate in the FEMA formaldehyde Loveland Mobile Estate 'subdivision' to gluttonously engorge upon the food provided to ye by the 'generosity' of the 'evil rich?'

Happy Thanksgiving, APR.

And to you and yours DSumm.

I actually sailed past Loveland on my way to FC. The Japanese steel gulping down high test at about a gallon every 27 miles and CO2 helping to add to the AQI. FC is your old stomping grounds if I remember correctly. In fact, I'm pretty sure I saw someone had erected some signs that mentioned something about praying to Beazlebub that you never return to this little slice of paradice in N. CO.

[dsummoner]

And to you and yours DSumm.

I actually sailed past Loveland on my way to FC. The Japanese steel gulping down high test at about a gallon every 27 miles and CO2 helping to add to the AQI. FC is your old stomping grounds if I remember correctly. In fact, I'm pretty sure I saw someone had erected some signs that mentioned something about praying to Beazlebub that you never return to this little slice of paradice in N. CO.

27 MPG... amateur.

It amuses me that they would be praying to one of my minor avatars.