Republicans refuse to think

[dsummoner]

Like who? Who is currently "non-interventionist" in the way that _you_ would define that word?

Byng.

[jessup270]

Why is it so acceptable for blacks to support Obama because he is black and supports black political agendas important to blacks?

Same for Hispanics who supported Obama because he is a minority and supports political agendas important to Hispanics?

Yet if white voters say I supported a white candidate because the candidate supports political agendas that are are important to whites, whites are considered racists voters.

[Wes]

So you're the Republican party. You have issues, no need to enumerate them here, but think demographics.

There is a black woman (Rice) who has been cleared of any wrongdoing in this Benghazi mess--meaning she was given talking points and adhered to them. Who amended the talking points is another issue, but nobody is saying she was aware of any inconsistency between what she was putting forth on behalf of the admin and the reality of what happened or what was known to have happened at that point in time.

This woman has an impressive CV and by accounts is a terrific public servant. She may be nominated by the POTUS for Sect of State.

Two old (white) codgers announce she is "unfit" and that they will filibuster her. Meanwhile, 97 Repub members of the House (and unless I miss my bet, almost all male and white) sign a letter to the POTUS voicing their opposition to the potential apppointment.

Ok so Harry Reid, being a sly old fox, when presented with the threat of a filibuster, will look at John and Lindsay and say, "gentlemen, hold the floor"--meaning you wanna threaten to filibuster, I am calling your bluff, have at it.

So now you these optics: two old white guys filibustering against the appt of a (relatively) young, black, single woman. And this letter to the POTUS hanging out there--a classic example of a self inflicted wound as the House has squat to say about this appt.

What in the name of God is wrong with these people? They want to stick it to Obama, there are plenty of ways to do that. It is mind-blowingly stupid.

She's single???

[Wes]

Susan Rice is not single. She's been married for 20 years and has two children with her husband.

oh....

[ms maggie]

Why is it so acceptable for blacks to support Obama because he is black and supports black political agendas important to blacks?

Same for Hispanics who supported Obama because he is a minority and supports political agendas important to Hispanics?

Yet if white voters say I supported a white candidate because the candidate supports political agendas that are are important to whites, whites are considered racists voters.

Jesus H Christ, how many times has this been discussed. Ok, listen up:

Obama got 93% of the AA vote, Clinton go 88% and Kerry 90%. So to say that "blacks support Obama because he is black" shows a remarkable inablity to look at simple data and draw a simple conclusion: blacks support Democrats. As a group they showed a staggering 3% differential in support of Obama vs the last white Dem candidate. Use that thing on top of your neck.

Hispanics supported Obama more so than any other Dem candidates. Certainly because he supports political agendas important to them--immigration reform being the prime variable in this election.

Now, suppose you tell me what political agendas are important to whites in the sense that immigration reform is important to Hispanics?

[soulflower]

Why is it so acceptable for blacks to support Obama because he is black and supports black political agendas important to blacks?

What political agenda specific to blacks has Obama supported?

Obama has actually gotten a good deal of criticism from black leaders for NOT implementing any policies meant specifically to help blacks in poverty....

[veritas]

I've changed my position on Rice. I think she's qualified to be SOS, or certainly as much or more qualified than Hillary Clinton. If Obama wants her, he should get what he wants. She can't help it if lamebrains in the WH sent her out on a mission sure to fail as soon as the facts came out. The GOP should be careful not to engage in petty politics such as those that kept somebody as qualified as Robert Bork off the SC. It's a losing proposition, particularly when, if successful, it'll certainly be framed as an assault on blacks or women, or both.

[soulflower]

I've changed my position on Rice. I think she's qualified to be SOS, or certainly as much or more qualified than Hillary Clinton. If Obama wants her, he should get what he wants. She can't help it if lamebrains in the WH sent her out on a mission sure to fail as soon as the facts came out. The GOP should be careful not to engage in the type of petty politics such as those that kept somebody as qualified as Robert Bork off the SC. It's a losing proposition, particularly when, if successful, it'll certainly be framed as an assault on blacks or women, or both.

Lindsey Graham seems to be walking back some of his comments about Rice.

McCain just seems to be holding a personal grudge against Rice and Obama over the 2008 election

[Joy in Mudville]

Why did I think she was single?

Regardless this whole thing really gripes me. Was just talking w the husband about how the R party seems to have a pretty deep bench of bright young guys (primarily guys unfortunately) who are their real hope going forward--new voices, new ideas, new appeal. They should form a posse and round up these old fools before they cause more damage to the GOP image.

It's not just the old ones who are the fools. One of their bright young guys just refused to acknowledge that the earth is more than 10,000 years old. DISQUALIFIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DaggerJohn]

Repubs keep picking fights over women and minority appointments in the Obama administration and they keep losing...

No, they won with Van Jones.

[DaggerJohn]

Let's see: Obama got 93% of AA vote, 73% of Asian American vote, and 70% of Hispanic vote.

If you choose to ignore that fact, and it's clear implication, well yu know what Pogo said. Merely acknowledging the situation as it pertains to race and the R party is not "playing the race card". You can't possibly be that dull-witted.

The Repubs might be able to hack into the Asian-American and the Hispanic vote with skillful politicking. They should write-off the AA vote because they can win nationally without it, and it's virtually unobtainable for them even with outsized effort, energy and money spent to obtain it. The Repubs also need to cultivate the white working class vote. They need a skilled practioner of politics, and Romney was not that.

[Monte]

The repubs have always embraced too big to fail regarding their senior members. It insures that thought remains a consistent syrup.

That's a GOP characteristic? Please explain Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden.

[Monte]

I've changed my position on Rice. I think she's qualified to be SOS, or certainly as much or more qualified than Hillary Clinton. If Obama wants her, he should get what he wants. She can't help it if lamebrains in the WH sent her out on a mission sure to fail as soon as the facts came out. The GOP should be careful not to engage in petty politics such as those that kept somebody as qualified as Robert Bork off the SC. It's a losing proposition, particularly when, if successful, it'll certainly be framed as an assault on blacks or women, or both.

What the democrats did to Supreme Court, nominee, Robert Bork was so horrendous that it produced a new verb, "Borked". Joe Biden(convicted plagiarizer) was on the panel that smeared Bork. Democrats painted Bork as racist as a judge who would send women to back alleys for abortions. But Robert Bork was probably the best constitutionalist in the past 2000 years, as compared to a lightweight like Sonia Sotomayor who actually said wise Latinas could make better decisions in the court.

What I read from most of the posters is that if the nominee is a person of color, they cannot and must not be criticized for anything whatsoever and the republicans should roll over and just let Rice on in for politically correct reasons.

[Calamari]

If they thought, they wouldn't be Republicans. I mean look at that babble above.

[dogstarman]

What the democrats did to Supreme Court, nominee, Robert Bork was so horrendous that it produced a new verb, "Borked". ,,,

For good reason, Bork was probably the most despicable choice ever nominated. He would have done tremendous damage given his track record of ridiculous inflexibility and explicit partisanship.

[jessup270]

Jesus H Christ, how many times has this been discussed. Ok, listen up:

Obama got 93% of the AA vote, Clinton go 88% and Kerry 90%. So to say that "blacks support Obama because he is black" shows a remarkable inablity to look at simple data and draw a simple conclusion: blacks support Democrats. As a group they showed a staggering 3% differential in support of Obama vs the last white Dem candidate. Use that thing on top of your neck.

Hispanics supported Obama more so than any other Dem candidates. Certainly because he supports political agendas important to them--immigration reform being the prime variable in this election.

Now, suppose you tell me what political agendas are important to whites in the sense that immigration reform is important to Hispanics?

White voters as a rule, detest entitlements that are given and not earned. For example pensions for military folks are earned, welfare is not. 30 years of work, gets you a SS retirement pension, while ADD or hemorrhoids, can get you SS disability with little or no work history.

[skeemer]

Why did I think she was single?

Perhaps you fell victim to the (unfortunate) stereotype that successful women must trade family for career in their deal with the devil.

[CajunRaven]

I've changed my position on Rice. I think she's qualified to be SOS, or certainly as much or more qualified than Hillary Clinton. If Obama wants her, he should get what he wants. She can't help it if lamebrains in the WH sent her out on a mission sure to fail as soon as the facts came out. The GOP should be careful not to engage in petty politics such as those that kept somebody as qualified as Robert Bork off the SC. It's a losing proposition, particularly when, if successful, it'll certainly be framed as an assault on blacks or women, or both.

I agree, and the republicans sure seem to be consistent in picking the wrong fights. They just never learn.

[music_man]

Repubs keep picking fights over women and minority appointments in the Obama administration and they keep losing...

Racist. Sexist.

[Mike Evans]

The issue is NOT that Rice was given incorrect information from intelligence professionals that was wrong and she repeated that information FIVE times.

The problem is that after it was was proven her statements were incorrect, has she told the American people that she is regretful for giving them incorrect information? Her defense is that I did what I was told to do.

What is so difficult for an official spokesman to say "I was wrong concerning a particular matter and without malicious intent repeatedly transmitted incorrect information", for that I ask the American people to be understanding".

This is not about that. How many time did Bush lie about WMD's. This is about Obama.