Did they purposely wait for the Dream Act's survival before moving to the Big Ten?

[Bloomin Onion]

http://bowie.patch.com/articles/acad...g-ten-decision

This article states clearly that according to University President Loh part of the reason is for academics and that this will help NOT JUST ATHLETES but OTHER "STUDENTS IN NEED". For me this immediately brings to mind the illegal alien students that will be taking advantage of the Dream Act that Maryland Democrats voted for out of party loyalty and liberal sensibilities.

I wonder if they had mentioned all these budget shortfalls facing College Park before the election, perhaps the Dream Act would have been defeated at the polls?????? No doubt the universities are losing money as lucrative out of state spots are now being filled with illegal alien paying in-state tuition. And academically that will hurt the schools as out of state spots will only be available after all the illegal aliens who want to go to College Park are given their spots already as they now give priority to illegal aliens over out of state students.

[AtticusII]

For me this immediately brings to mind the illegal alien

What doesn't?!?

[Saticon3]

We lost. Time to get over it and move on. Its not going to be a big deal, really. Also, it should now be clear that most voters are pretty much in tune with MOM. Miller, Busch, the Legislature--- we're a quite left-leaning state and will be better off to accept that- or move.

[Bloomin Onion]

We lost. Time to get over it and move on. Its not going to be a big deal, really. Also, it should now be clear that most voters are pretty much in tune with MOM. Miller, Busch, the Legislature--- we're a quite left-leaning state and will be better off to accept that- or move.

This liberalism is spreading. While Virginia still does not allow in-state tuition for illegals and still has a constitutional ban on gay marriage, Obama won there both times due to the power of Northern Virginia over the rest of the state, which is also contributing toward the proposed tolls on Interstate 95 south of Richmond. I believe this is something that was proposed by the liberal elites of Northern Virginia in order to redistribute money from the rural Southern parts of the state to subsidize their mass transit projects, the way the Eastern Shore and Western Maryland subsidize the DC area especially when it comes to transportation costs and tolls. Virginia overall is not as conservative as it once was, and neither is North Carolina. More nad more states are following liberal policies and raising taxes.

We need to stand strong and fight against illegal immigration, taxes, tolls, abortion, and Obamacare at every turn possible.

[Bloomin Onion]

I think the effects of the Dream Act are only beginning to be seen. It is clear to me that they purposely did not announce the decision to move to the Big Ten and save money until the Dream Act survived, just like many companies didn't announce cutting staff until after the election when they now became sure Obamacare would survive and force them to unprofitably provide health care to their entitlted feeling employees. And I think the corrupt unions trying to hold Walmart hostage on Black Friday also waited until after the election because now they know even if they fired, Obama will give them a free ride through Obamacare and other entitlement programs paid for by the taxpayers.

[bmore_ken]

http://bowie.patch.com/articles/acad...g-ten-decision

This article states clearly that according to University President Loh part of the reason is for academics and that this will help NOT JUST ATHLETES but OTHER "STUDENTS IN NEED". For me this immediately brings to mind the illegal alien students that will be taking advantage of the Dream Act that Maryland Democrats voted for out of party loyalty and liberal sensibilities.

You lost dude. Get over it

[bmore_ken]

We lost. Time to get over it and move on. Its not going to be a big deal, really. Also, it should now be clear that most voters are pretty much in tune with MOM. Miller, Busch, the Legislature--- we're a quite left-leaning state and will be better off to accept that- or move.

I finally brought you around Kidding my friend

[ichy]

I'm no fan of the Dream Act but this is a pretty dumb conspiracy theory.

[sigmalady]

What doesn't?!?

You must have been reading my mind.

[Bloomin Onion]

Ken I am just pointing out the EFFECTS of what you and other liberal Democrats voted for. The liberal media hid this news from us because they didn't want the people to connect the dots. Remember when the petition first came around it was at the same time they announced that they were getting rid of a scholarship fund for talented Maryland kids. So they were afraid a similar connection would be drawn, that people would see College Park's budget issues the same time they are voting to spend tax money and tuition money so these illegal alien Dreamers can get a free ride they don't deserve.

If they do not allow the Dream Act kids to go, maybe they woudn't have such a large budget deficit at the university system. If they didn't have to absorb the cost of these illegal aliens, maybe tuition would be lower. Yall ever think of that?

[Bloomin Onion]

What doesn't?!?

Seriously the liberal media and the sheep that believe that do not admit it but illegal aliens are a major cause of many of the problems in this country. When you are paying more and more in health care, also think about the hordes of illeegals flooding emergency rooms and demanding free health care. With crime think about how much of the crime nationwide (yes in Baltimore its a lot of thugs that would look like Obama's son if he had a son) but nationwide illegal aliens are reponsible for a lot of the violent crime that hapens.

[bmore_ken]

If they do not allow the Dream Act kids to go, maybe they woudn't have such a large budget deficit at the university system. If they didn't have to absorb the cost of these illegal aliens, maybe tuition would be lower. Yall ever think of that?

Again you didn't read the bill. The "dream act" kids first have to graduate from a community college before they can even get to the university system. Even then their parents have to show proof of Maryland taxes being paid. I'd wager very few illegal aliens will meet the requirements of the dream act anyway. If they do, that means their parents paid state taxes and as such should be entitled to instate tuition rates anyway. Any current deficit in the university system has nothing to to do with these kids you hate so much

[The Eternal White Belt]

The Maryland ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT is in debt due to the expansion of it's football stadium, not illegal aliens.

Stick to talking about things you understand... oh wait, I guess then you would have to stop talking altogether. Yeah, I could live with that.

[musicmd]

I think the effects of the Dream Act are only beginning to be seen. It is clear to me that they purposely did not announce the decision to move to the Big Ten and save money until the Dream Act survived, just like many companies didn't announce cutting staff until after the election when they now became sure Obamacare would survive and force them to unprofitably provide health care to their entitlted feeling employees. And I think the corrupt unions trying to hold Walmart hostage on Black Friday also waited until after the election because now they know even if they fired, Obama will give them a free ride through Obamacare and other entitlement programs paid for by the taxpayers.

I'm already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth.

[Terry K]

Again you didn't read the bill. The "dream act" kids first have to graduate from a community college before they can even get to the university system. Even then their parents have to show proof of Maryland taxes being paid. I'd wager very few illegal aliens will meet the requirements of the dream act anyway. If they do, that means their parents paid state taxes and as such should be entitled to instate tuition rates anyway. Any current deficit in the university system has nothing to to do with these kids you hate so much

Actually, it appears as though you may not have read the bill or perhaps mistakenly assumed that there was a provision that the parents paid taxes. There is only a requirement that tax returns were filed.....no requirement that taxes were paid. Apparently, a number of Maryland voters "assumed" making an ....never mind.

See the actual bill at
http://mlis.state.md.us/2011rs/bills/sb/sb0167e.pdf and specifically page 4 item 4

[prepfan]

Actually, it appears as though you may not have read the bill or perhaps mistakenly assumed that there was a provision that the parents paid taxes. There is only a requirement that tax returns were filed.....no requirement that taxes were paid. Apparently, a number of Maryland voters "assumed" making an ....never mind.

See the actual bill at
http://mlis.state.md.us/2011rs/bills/sb/sb0167e.pdf and specifically page 4 item 4

Just very curious. What would you accept as evidence of taxes paid ?

[Terry K]

Just very curious. What would you accept as evidence of taxes paid ?

very simple A filed and accepted tax return that indicates taxes were paid

[Saticon3]

I finally brought you around Kidding my friend

Well, you're right. As I've said before, I'm not moving because factors way beyond politics keep me here, and I'm not all that unhappy about it. I mean if I had my druthers, I'd live maybe in FL, NC, but I don't have the wherewithall to prepare myself financially for such a move. There are family concerns too. And, despite my disagreement with mainstream--( and I think its quite clear now that mainstream is more or less the vision and direction of MOM, Miller, Busch & the Legislature) Life is quite OK here for me. Sure I'd like to pay less taxes and have government smaller and less intricately involved at all levels than they are now, but that just ain't gonna happen here. But, I can cope. I used to think mainstream was some sort of practical, pragmatic form of demlibism-- and that when "they" go too far extreme, the pragmatic voters would rein them in or at least take them back a step. I now see I was wrong, especially with the defeat of the challenge to the ridiculous re-districting. Dream doesn't really bother me, and I was and am on board with SSM, but I would have hoped besides defeating the redistricting, Marylanders would somehow express to the leaders disatisfaction with their fiscal policies and ever reliance on tax and fee increases. Plus, to me, the gambling, while I'm not opposed to gambling itself, is simply a "new" and "easy" revenue source to ever expand government and give them more money to play with. They'll spend every dime and more of new gambling revenue on new stuff, imho, and in the end, the tax bill for most of us will go up, not down or even be mitigated by gambling revenue.

If one doesn't accept that is the status quo and unlikely to change drastically anytime soon, and is bothered every waking moment by it, they might very well be happier moving. But the national election results kind of mirror MD's - or is it vice-versa? So I don't know where one would move. Maybe just not use politics as a selection criteria.

But, then again, this board may serve some well simply as a venting space and not indicate that the posters are THAT upset enough to pull up roots.

Anyway, I see hope in Franchot. Maybe I'll switch to Dem so I can vote for him in the primary, also the primaries are where 99% of the contested elections in MD are, as an INDIE, I don't get a say, just as a Repub. doesn't. Unless, we go to open primaries like we talked about before, I still like that idea-- candidates run on the first ballot, anyone can run, then the second general election would be a runoff among the top 3. Of course, BOTH parties would never go for that.

[bmore_ken]

Actually, it appears as though you may not have read the bill or perhaps mistakenly assumed that there was a provision that the parents paid taxes. There is only a requirement that tax returns were filed.....no requirement that taxes were paid. Apparently, a number of Maryland voters "assumed" making an ....never mind.

See the actual bill at
http://mlis.state.md.us/2011rs/bills/sb/sb0167e.pdf and specifically page 4 item 4

What do you put on a tax return if you have no taxable income?

[bmore_ken]

very simple A filed and accepted tax return that indicates taxes were paid

Bingo.