Did they purposely wait for the Dream Act's survival before moving to the Big Ten?

[Saticon3]

No mystery to it. A coworker had been talking to me about taking a look in Pa for a few years now and I finally decided to take a peek at the housing prices recently. Big difference from Maryland prices and there's nothing really holding me here(I have coworkers who do the commute every day). I've seen properties there with land at the price of some townhouses here. So I'm not looking there because it's a Haven or I don't like Maryland. Simply better housing prices. So I'll probably land in York, Dover, or Dallastown

Do government policies have any affect on property values? Might tax & spend "big government" states drive values higher than maybe they should be?

[prepfan]

Ok, now cover refundable credits other than EIC, please. Such as child credit.
( I'm not upset that Dream passed and agree it will largely have zero affect on the vast majority of us, I'm just debating for the sake of debate here)

I have no intention of doing any more "covering".

I am not interested in debate for debate's sake.

So, as I said,

"Why not channel the energy and resources to something that will; like, say, stricter enforcement against those that employ illegals.

Let's move past searching for that recently engaged gay, undocumented table games dealer, living in a recently redistricted congressional district who files tax returns that result in a full 100% refunded -no tax liability.

peace out

"

[The Eternal White Belt]

but, that's not the criteria for verification that the law sets. And, having taxes withheld id different from actually paying taxes.

No, but it's part of the justification given as to why in-state students get the discount in first place (illegal or legal) - they (and their parents) are residents who pay taxes and have therefore been paying part of their tuition the entire time they've lived in Maryland.

[Terry K]

I have no intention of doing any more "covering".

I am not interested in debate for debate's sake.

So, as I said,

"Why not channel the energy and resources to something that will; like, say, stricter enforcement against those that employ illegals.

Let's move past searching for that recently engaged gay, undocumented table games dealer, living in a recently redistricted congressional district who files tax returns that result in a full 100% refunded -no tax liability.

peace out

"

Sometimes, it's a matter of principle.......why can't the politicians just put it out there in plain English and not try to hide their actions by being deceptive. If the actual intent was to give instate tuition to students whose family "paid" taxes, don't insult the electorate by changing the language to "filed" taxes. They draft a bill saying one thing but don't have the cajones to state publically what their true intentions were.


Even the redistricting bill was written in such a way as to deceive people. An uninformed person, and Maryland apparently has plenty, would naturally assume that the recent redistricting was done to follow the Constitution. Instead, the ballot initiative should have reflected a partisan scheme to change the boundaries of the eight Congressional Districts to give unfair advantage to some and disenfranchise others.

"Establishes the boundaries for the State’s eight United States Congressional Districts based on recent census figures, as required by the United States Constitution.

[OldBay]

Sometimes, it's a matter of principle.......why can't the politicians just put it out there in plain English and not try to hide there actions by being deceptive. If the actual intent was to give instate tuition to students whose family "paid" taxes, don't insult the electorate by changing the language to "filed" taxes. They draft a bill saying one thing but don't have the cajones to state publically what their true intentions were.


Even the redistricting bill was written in such a way as to deceive people. An uninformed person, and Maryland apparently has plenty, would naturally assume that the recent redistricting was done to follow the Constitution. Instead, the ballot initiative should have reflected a partisan scheme to change the boundaries of the eight Congressional Districts to give unfair advantage to some and disenfranchise others.

"Establishes the boundaries for the State’s eight United States Congressional Districts based on recent census figures, as required by the United States Constitution.

The language of these bills is no accident. These guys are mostly lawyers and try to use precise language. There was no real need in the bill for the requirement that parents filed tax returns. That was inserted to deceive people - and it worked very well, since there are some here who equate filing a tax return with "paying taxes" - to create some sense of legitimacy. That "requirement" was inserted only to create the appearance that taxes were paid - when there is no such actual requirement.

Its often said that "the devil is in the details". And when writing bills - or referendum questions, too often the devil is busy inserting the details.

[bmore_ken]

Do government policies have any affect on property values? Might tax & spend "big government" states drive values higher than maybe they should be?

If you're asking me if Marylanders are overtaxed my answer would be yes

[bmore_ken]

It's time to move on. The law 'survived' referendum.

Bingo!!!!!!

[jtowne-swim]

http://bowie.patch.com/articles/acad...g-ten-decision

This article states clearly that according to University President Loh part of the reason is for academics and that this will help NOT JUST ATHLETES but OTHER "STUDENTS IN NEED". For me this immediately brings to mind the illegal alien students that will be taking advantage of the Dream Act that Maryland Democrats voted for out of party loyalty and liberal sensibilities.

I wonder if they had mentioned all these budget shortfalls facing College Park before the election, perhaps the Dream Act would have been defeated at the polls?????? No doubt the universities are losing money as lucrative out of state spots are now being filled with illegal alien paying in-state tuition. And academically that will hurt the schools as out of state spots will only be available after all the illegal aliens who want to go to College Park are given their spots already as they now give priority to illegal aliens over out of state students.

How many students who take advantage of the dream act will be going to College Park Next Year? How many of them would have gone anyway and afforded to pay out of state tution? I bet 0 if they get into College Park they will be like any other student!

[ichy]

Maryland can get some great lessons from Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Louisiana, Tennessee and Georgia on how to run things.

Louisiana? Are you kidding me? MD has its flaws but it is a far better place to live than LA.

[Bloomin Onion]

If the've ever bought anything in the state of Maryland, then they've paid taxes to the state.

Then every tourist who visited or stopped here on the way someplace has paid taxes. Are they entitled then to in-state tuition too?

[Bloomin Onion]

Louisiana? Are you kidding me? MD has its flaws but it is a far better place to live than LA.

Louisiana is better to live in than Maryland. I was born there and lived there. The taxes are much lower and outsie of New Orleans and Baton Rouge the crime is low. There are more gun rights and criminalss are put away for life or sentenced to death (except in the city of New Orleans which is run by Democrats with liberal judges like Baltimore City). IT costs $3 round trip to crosss the 24 mile Lake Pontchartrain bridge. There are fewer illegal aliens in Louisiana and people don't have to deal with them at much. Illegals who live there know there place and will never demand in-state tuition. (all relative of course as if they REALLY know their place they would stay in Mexico).

Maryland IS better than New Jersey, New York, California, and Massachusetts......

[Bloomin Onion]

If you're asking me if Marylanders are overtaxed my answer would be yes

Giving in-state tution to these illegal criminaliens would only increase taxes even further.

[The Eternal White Belt]

Then every tourist who visited or stopped here on the way someplace has paid taxes. Are they entitled then to in-state tuition too?

Seriously?

[bmore_ken]

Giving in-state tution to these illegal criminaliens would only increase taxes even further.

You lost dude, get over it

[Bloomin Onion]

Are White Belt and Bmore Ken that rabidly in favor of illegal immigration?

[The Eternal White Belt]

Why does Blooming Onion rely so heavily on the non sequitur?

[bmore_ken]

Are White Belt and Bmore Ken that rabidly in favor of illegal immigration?

Can you show a post where I said I'm in favor of illegal immigration?

Here are some actual posts by me on my opinions on illegal immigration

Sure we could have, if it was done right. Here too. You take a properly constructed fence. Bring every soldier home from Iraq and Afghanistan and put them on the border with shoot to kill orders, and combine them with the border patrol with the same orders and you'd be amazed at how few got across. Is it going to be 100% effective? Nothing is. But when news reports in Mexico starts showing dead Mexicans at the border, it might make that trip across a lot less appealing

What he said^^^^^^
Take those troops and put them on our southern border with shoot to kill orders and solve our illegal immigration problem

It's going to stay that way until you start heavily fining employers, cut down on hearing appeals and put troops on the border

[The Eternal White Belt]

Can you show a post where I said I'm in favor of illegal immigration?

Here are some actual posts by me on my opinions on illegal immigration

Of course, he's read your posts... he just chooses to ignore them. If you are in favor of the dream act, it means you run an anchor baby facility in your basement and/or you are the Harriett Tubman of illegal aliens.

[bmore_ken]

Of course, he's read your posts... he just chooses to ignore them. If you are in favor of the dream act, it means you run an anchor baby facility in your basement and/or you are the Harriett Tubman of illegal aliens.

Dude is insane. How can anyone harbor that much anger for people you've never met? I don't get it

[Bloomin Onion]

As the son of legal asian immigrants, the presence of illegal aliens in my country and the fact that I am paying taxes to support them in all their arrogance and sense of entitlement disgusts and offends me.