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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Evans View Post
    Sounds like he just hate the president
    Poor Barry...he should hire He Hate Me to fill Reggie Love's old job as the First Rebounder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demopublican View Post
    Not really. In 2008 Obama ran an effieicent and optimistic campaign. In 2012 it was all partisan all the time. I still voted Obama but only because the GOP nominee was so incredibly poor that even Obama was the lessor of two evils.

    I hear that.

    But I still maintain that the choice of dividing is the divider's.

    As much as I loathed W, I never felt I wasn't part of America.
    I DID feel (and still do) that the Republican Party, and to a lesser extent, the Democratic Party as well, chooses to divide themselves from ME and MY views.

    But the Party's are not America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demopublican View Post
    Not really. In 2008 Obama ran an effieicent and optimistic campaign. In 2012 it was all partisan all the time. I still voted Obama but only because the GOP nominee was so incredibly poor that even Obama was the lessor of two evils.
    Compromise is a two-way street. Obama made an effort at bipartisanship. The repubs just refused to meet him halfway during his first term...

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Compromise is a two-way street. Obama made an effort at bipartisanship. The repubs just refused to meet him halfway during his first term...
    Liar. No he didn't...and he would be the first to tell you he didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Compromise is a two-way street. Obama made an effort at bipartisanship. The repubs just refused to meet him halfway during his first term...
    Lol, how funny.

    His quote within 2 weeks of taking office:

    "Election have consequences, and I won."

    just three days after the inauguration, when the new president gathered congressional leaders of both parties to discuss his proposed economic stimulus. House Republican Whip Eric Cantor gave President Obama a list of modest proposals for the bill. Obama said he would consider the GOP ideas, but told the assembled Republicans that "elections have consequences" and "I won." Backed by the largest congressional majorities in decades, the president was not terribly interested in giving ground to his vanquished adversaries.
    Obama made his own agenda intending to ram everything he could through a Democrat-controlled legislature, and when he found resistance to his leftist agenda he simply issued another Executive Order bypassing the Constitutional process.

    Yes, compromise IS a two way street, and any claim that he tried to compromise is disingenuous at best, a lie more accurately.

    It is not compromise when you refuse to entertain any of the opposition's ideas. And maintaining an unwavering position opposing cuts to social welfare programs while increasing spending is not the way to accomplish this grand plan.

    Give a little, get a little. Obama refuses to give at all.

    He believes he has a mandate (lol) - let him try again to force his agenda, and prepare for nothing but gridlock when he does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Lol, how funny.

    His quote within 2 weeks of taking office:

    "Election have consequences, and I won."



    Obama made his own agenda intending to ram everything he could through a Democrat-controlled legislature, and when he found resistance to his leftist agenda he simply issued another Executive Order bypassing the Constitutional process.

    Yes, compromise IS a two way street, and any claim that he tried to compromise is disingenuous at best, a lie more accurately.

    It is not compromise when you refuse to entertain any of the opposition's ideas. And maintaining an unwavering position opposing cuts to social welfare programs while increasing spending is not the way to accomplish this grand plan.

    Give a little, get a little. Obama refuses to give at all.

    He believes he has a mandate (lol) - let him try again to force his agenda, and prepare for nothing but gridlock when he does.

    What a load of BS you typed. Pubbies have had their feet in concrete for 4 years. They marched to the orders of their dear leader, Mitch McConnell.

    His words, " Our number one job is to make sure that Barrack Obama is a one term President".

    And you tell us they compromised. Joke of the day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creekman View Post
    What a load of BS you typed. Pubbies have had their feet in concrete for 4 years. They marched to the orders of their dear leader, Mitch McConnell.

    His words, " Our number one job is to make sure that Barrack Obama is a one term President".

    And you tell us they compromised. Joke of the day!
    Did I say they did? Can you read? Your partisan Obama blinders has foged your brain, seeing things that dont' exist or we never stated.

    What I am refuting is the contention the Obama (Pelosi, Reid, et al) attempted any compromise.

    They did not.

    They held hard and fast to their own immovable objects, and they ran into the exact same thing.

    To think that the Repubs were the sole impediment to any compromise on any issue is just blatant blind Democrat BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Did I say they did? Can you read? Your partisan Obama blinders has foged your brain, seeing things that dont' exist or we never stated.

    What I am refuting is the contention the Obama (Pelosi, Reid, et al) attempted any compromise.

    They did not.

    They held hard and fast to their own immovable objects, and they ran into the exact same thing.

    To think that the Repubs were the sole impediment to any compromise on any issue is just blatant blind Democrat BS.
    Can you read? No...you have been on a eff Obama rant for years now and you call me partisan. Now that is blatant and readily apparent.

    Its damn hard to reach a deal or compromise with a group who are hell bent on blocking every thing you propose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Obama made his own agenda intending to ram everything he could through a Democrat-controlled legislature, and when he found resistance to his leftist agenda he simply issued another Executive Order bypassing the Constitutional process.
    What leftist agenda are you talking about? Do we have single-payer insurance? Is marijuana legal across the country? Did the government takeover the banks?

    Where is this leftist agenda you speak of?

    Obama has governed as a moderate not a leftist.

    Republicans made a tactical decision not to compromise with the Dems on anything in the first four years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    It is not compromise when you refuse to entertain any of the opposition's ideas.
    90% of Obamacare is the otherside's ideas(ie Romneycare)...


    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    And maintaining an unwavering position opposing cuts to social welfare programs while increasing spending is not the way to accomplish this grand plan.
    According to Bob Woodward, Obama had put serious social welfare cuts on the table in his offer to John Boehner in 2011

    "This is a confidential document, last offer the president -- the White House made last year to Speaker Boehner to try to reach this $4 trillion grand bargain. And it's long and it's tedious and it's got budget jargon in it. But what it shows is a willingness to cut all kinds of things, like TRICARE, which is the sacred health insurance program for the military, for military retirees; to cut Social Security; to cut Medicare. And there are some lines in there about, "We want to get tax rates down, not only for individuals but for businesses." So Obama and the White House were willing to go quite far."

    http://presspass.nbcnews.com/_news/2...-woodward?lite


    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post

    Give a little, get a little. Obama refuses to give at all.
    Obama was willing to give up A LOT in 2011.

    http://presspass.nbcnews.com/_news/2...-woodward?lite

    Sometimes I feel like he is the worst negotiator ever. Either that or Obama is a closet republican...

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Where is this leftist agenda you speak of?

    Obama has governed as a moderate not a leftist.
    Obama was forced to govern that way, not by his own choice.

    The most liberal Senator in the Senate when he became POTUS, didn't suddenly undergo and complete ideology transformation when he moved down Pennsylvania Ave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus
    Obama was forced to govern that way, not by his own choice.
    LOL. Nothing says "I lost an argument" better than that sentence right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Obama was forced to govern that way, not by his own choice.

    The most liberal Senator in the Senate when he became POTUS, didn't suddenly undergo and complete ideology transformation when he moved down Pennsylvania Ave.
    You're right. I'm sure he will implement Mandatory abortions and Reparations for slavery in his second term

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creekman View Post
    Its damn hard to reach a deal or compromise with a group who are hell bent on blocking every thing you propose.

    Or with a President who refuses to budge on his own pet ideology.

    Why do the LWNJs believe that it's only a compromise when the "other side" gives in?

    And can only accept the "other side" to "see things our way" as the only solution?

    Seems like the Repubs in Congress are willing to listen to a revenue plan that includes tax increases, but want to see corresponding cuts in social welfare, yet the Dems will not even listen to those ideas.....why not?

    Why is that not a stubborn failure to not compromise on their part?

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    Time will tell who is in the mood to compromise. All I hear from the right is protect the millionaires and billionaires. I don't think the pubbies have seen the light yet.

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    Anyone talking about "pubbies" is too partisan to speak of compromise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musicmd View Post
    Sounds like you are lying.
    Really?

    Sounds like a dyed in the wool Libertarian to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Lol, how funny.

    His quote within 2 weeks of taking office:

    "Election have consequences, and I won."



    Obama made his own agenda intending to ram everything he could through a Democrat-controlled legislature, and when he found resistance to his leftist agenda he simply issued another Executive Order bypassing the Constitutional process.

    Yes, compromise IS a two way street, and any claim that he tried to compromise is disingenuous at best, a lie more accurately.

    It is not compromise when you refuse to entertain any of the opposition's ideas. And maintaining an unwavering position opposing cuts to social welfare programs while increasing spending is not the way to accomplish this grand plan.

    Give a little, get a little. Obama refuses to give at all.

    He believes he has a mandate (lol) - let him try again to force his agenda, and prepare for nothing but gridlock when he does.
    You base your claim that Obama did not compromise on a Marc Thiessen op-ed piece. Do you know who Thiessen worked for before he was in the Bush administration's PR department? Jesse Helms, that's who. Thiessen is three steps to the right of Attila the Hun, and he's paid to advance the Republican cause by putting a pro-right slant on things.

    You're going to have to do much, much better than Thiessen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Eyed Southern Boy View Post
    Really?

    Sounds like a dyed in the wool Libertarian to me.
    No, libertarians are more honest than he is -- both to others and to themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phineas Finn View Post
    No, libertarians are more honest than he is -- both to others and to themselves.
    Happy Thanksgiving, Phineas Finn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demopublican View Post
    Anyone talking about "pubbies" is too partisan to speak of compromise.


    May I presume the same about those who speak of the Democrat Party, or Democrat initiatives, or the favorite "demon-rat"?

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