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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    I don't know anyone in any state that doesn't think they're overtaxed regardless of where their state ranks.
    so even in the second highest taxed state in the country we are not overtaxed ......

    its all perception, its in our heads ........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastside Terp View Post
    so even in the second highest taxed state in the country we are not overtaxed ......

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    Can you quote where I wrote that? Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastside Terp View Post
    so even in the second highest taxed state in the country we are not overtaxed ......

    its all perception, its in our heads ........
    MD is not the second highest taxed state in the country based on any data I can find. Rather, its citizens would suffer the second highest increase in per capita federal taxes if the US Congress cannot resolve the fiscal cliff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprightly View Post
    I'm a citizen of this country and have every right to complain about issues impacting me. So stow it.
    I agree with that sentiment, BUT its clear to me after this past election that a clear majority of the people that bother to get out and actually vote think the State's leadership is doing just fine by them. Heck, they even like the obscene gerrymandering.

    The Republican party is pretty much a non-factor in the state, the primaries are the de-facto general elections with dems just rying to out dem one another.

    If one is consumed by politics and taxes and such, moving would seem to worth looking into, that or stocking up on blood-pressure pills, 'cause I don't think its going to change anytimew soon.

    Or, maybe we should all register as Dems so we can actually have a vote that counts. That's what I'm considering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy_d View Post
    MD is not the second highest taxed state in the country based on any data I can find. Rather, its citizens would suffer the second highest increase in per capita federal taxes if the US Congress cannot resolve the fiscal cliff.
    ok, fair enough but that doesn't necessarily mean we are not also the second highest tax state ........

    not going to research to find out either way ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Eternal White Belt View Post
    Good thing we are #1 in income.
    I guess you missed the part where it said >percentage< of income, not absolute numbers.

    Do try to keep up, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USP9 View Post
    I guess you missed the part where it said >percentage< of income, not absolute numbers.

    Do try to keep up, though.
    Doesn't matter. Marylanders make more than anyone else in the country. I am thankful that I make enough money that my tax bill has zero impact on my happiness. Part of that has to do with the fact that this area is quite fertile for jobs. I'm thankful for that, and therefore do not care that I'm paying a higher percentage of taxes than elsewhere. I mean, it could be worse... I could be living in West Virginia.

    I'm sorry that such a simple idea went completely over your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saticon3 View Post
    I agree with that sentiment, BUT its clear to me after this past election that a clear majority of the people that bother to get out and actually vote think the State's leadership is doing just fine by them. Heck, they even like the obscene gerrymandering.

    The Republican party is pretty much a non-factor in the state, the primaries are the de-facto general elections with dems just rying to out dem one another.

    If one is consumed by politics and taxes and such, moving would seem to worth looking into, that or stocking up on blood-pressure pills, 'cause I don't think its going to change anytimew soon.

    Or, maybe we should all register as Dems so we can actually have a vote that counts. That's what I'm considering.
    A lot of the liberal initiatives passsing was because of the liberal media bias and misinformation and from the election people too. Most people do not know about the map and the way the question was worded was misleading.....all it says is that we approve setting congresssional boundaries per the Constitution. They should have shown the gerrymandered map so that voters would be more educated.

    And the media also misleads the voters about saying the illegal alien Dream Act requires that the parents pay taxes. It doesn't. It just says they have to FILE taxes, they can easily file a tax return, claim zero income and actually get money back!!! I'm sure a lot of illegals file tax returns saying no income using fake names to get money from the government. The illegals steal from this country every chance they get! This fact should be evident to all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloomin Onion View Post
    . They should have shown the gerrymandered map so that voters would be more educated.
    You see this is the problem. That map was available for people who really cared about the issue. It was linked here for example. Informed voters don't need everything handed to them, they'll seek out such things to make an educated choice. Lazy voters won't and that has nothing to do with the media, that's a personal choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Pondering View Post
    Do you pay taxes? Are you happy about being #2 in taxes as a % of income?

    Surely you can muster a more constructive comment. Yes? Try.
    Guarantee he is on some kind of assistance, welfare, food stamps, subsidized housing or if he does work has some kind of government employment which means he has a vested interest in high taxes, since his income comes from the taxpayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha Beach View Post
    Guarantee he is on some kind of assistance, welfare, food stamps, subsidized housing or if he does work has some kind of government employment which means he has a vested interest in high taxes, since his income comes from the taxpayers.
    Hate to break it to you, but a very large proportion of our most skilled workers are dependent on tax-payer money via government contracts: positions like engineers, scientists, IT professionals, etc. And then all of the positions that support those lines of business (skilled and unskilled) - accountants, surveyors, planners, HR, janitorial staff, etc.

    While I can fault the government for being wasteful of money, I can't fault people who work for the government (directly or as contractors)... let that system dry up and you can kiss our economy bye-bye - forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Eternal White Belt View Post
    Good thing we are #1 in income.
    The CITIZENS of Maryland make good money which is where Maryland gets all of its money through taxes. Then once they tax our money they misuse it and waste it though bad programs and redistribution. The money that was meant to go to roads and highways was stolen and used to pay for other programs. Then Owemalley comes out and explains to US THE CITIZENS that WE are going to have to make up the difference by raising tolls. How can anyone support this type of leadership?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    You see this is the problem. That map was available for people who really cared about the issue. It was linked here for example. Informed voters don't need everything handed to them, they'll seek out such things to make an educated choice. Lazy voters won't and that has nothing to do with the media, that's a personal choice
    You are right. But the problem is most folks are lazy voters, and are easily manipulated by stuff like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    I don't know anyone in any state that doesn't think they're overtaxed regardless of where their state ranks.
    Well,.. Alaska pays no sales or income tax and actually gets money back annually from the state from its oil revenue. Now I understand Maryland has no oil money to give back to its citizens, but you said "any state".

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavnFreek View Post
    Well,.. Alaska pays no sales or income tax and actually gets money back annually from the state from its oil revenue. Now I understand Maryland has no oil money to give back to its citizens, but you said "any state".
    I stand corrected on the any comment , but who the hell wants to live in Alaska

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavnFreek View Post
    You are right. But the problem is most folks are lazy voters, and are easily manipulated by stuff like this.
    I don't disagree, but BO is blaming "the liberal media". It's not the fault of the "liberal media" if you're a lazy voter

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    I don't disagree, but BO is blaming "the liberal media". It's not the fault of the "liberal media" if you're a lazy voter
    Truth. Blame the special interest groups who decided that this issue was not worth spending millions on ads, and instead spent it to try and stop gambling and same-sex marriage.

    Perhaps if they spent that money to alert voters to the insane gerrymandering on the ballot, it would have been stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Eternal White Belt View Post
    Truth. Blame the special interest groups who decided that this issue was not worth spending millions on ads, and instead spent it to try and stop gambling and same-sex marriage.

    Perhaps if they spent that money to alert voters to the insane gerrymandering on the ballot, it would have been stopped.
    Or perhaps the lazy voters can stop being so lazy depending on special interest groups and do their own homework.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    Or perhaps the lazy voters can stop being so lazy depending on special interest groups and do their own homework.
    Haha... Yeah, that's definite true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloomin Onion View Post
    So musicmd how hypocritical you are. I'm sure during the Iraq war when people said America love it or leave it you probably said things like how dissent is patriotic and that if you love your country or state you would criticize it. Now your answer for anyone who is against illegals getting a free ride, or anyone poinitng out our high taxes in Maryland, is for them to move. So very tolerant you liberals are.
    Don't feed the troll. If all the taxpayers left MD, then people like him would have to find someone else to mooch off of.

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