What Are You Thankful For This Thanksgiving ?

[songfourone]

But 'this year' you did not voluntarily raise your taxes for 'this year.' You still have time to go to pay.gov and voluntarily, 'this year,' raise your taxes to pay your 'fair share.'

LOL nah, we are crazy but not stupid

[dsummoner]

LOL nah, we are crazy but not stupid

You have been reported to DHS for hating on 'mericah.

[songfourone]

You have been reported to DHS for hating on 'mericah.

What exactly would you consider fair taxes for everyone?

[Mom49of4]

Link please..

Google is your friend.

[dsummoner]

What exactly would you consider fair taxes for everyone?

Paying full freight for the services and programs that one directly wants/uses without forcing the costs of the same onto others.

[songfourone]

Paying full freight for the services and programs that one directly wants/uses without forcing the costs of the same onto others.

Is that realistic?

[songfourone]

Link please..

Mom is wrong about Mitt and his charitable donations, basically it was to the Mormon church and his own private foundation.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...r-2-years.html

At first glance, the dollar amount of the Romneys’ charitable giving is “shocking,” Russell James, director of a graduate program in charitable financial planning at Texas Tech University in Lubbock, said in a telephone interview today. “But it’s a different story when you compare it to total wealth. It’s not a shocking amount when you have a quarter- billion dollars in wealth.”
In addition to their church donations, the Romneys had deductions for more than $2 million in donations that are listed as noncash charitable contributions. That includes tens of thousands of shares of stock in Domino’s Pizza Inc, Senasata Technologies, Dunkin Donuts and Warner Chilcott that went to his family’s Tyler Foundation, based in Boston. Romney’s Bain Capital acquired those companies, records show.

[dsummoner]

Is that realistic?

Not internally. It will take external forces to make it happen.

[songfourone]

Newt has nothing to do with what I am talking about.

I beg to differ, you were discussing character in politicians, and how Mitt stayed by his wife during 2 illnesses, indeed Newt comes to mind

[Mom49of4]

dsummoner do you see taxes as a gift to the government? In return we gain services. I do not believe our founding fathers saw that as a reason to tax us.

[songfourone]

Not internally. It will take external forces to make it happen.

External forces?

[songfourone]

Would you believe that my brother is a professor of economics? None of it rubbed off

[Mom49of4]

I beg to differ, you were discussing character in politicians, and how Mitt stayed by his wife during 2 illnesses, indeed Newt comes to mind

Okay but I have never compared Newt and Romney.

[dsummoner]

dsummoner do you see taxes as a gift to the government? In return we gain services. I do not believe our founding fathers saw that as a reason to tax us.

The Founding Fathers realized the dangers of mob rule (aka democracy). That is why the US was founded as a democratic republic. They were correct in restricting voting rights to land owners and in not having a tax on income (they screwed up with keeping slavery and in regards to women's right to vote).

[Grindelwald]

dsummoner do you see taxes as a gift to the government? In return we gain services. I do not believe our founding fathers saw that as a reason to tax us.

This isn't 1800.

[Rael]

Romney is an ambitious man who was vastly unqualified for the position he so desperately wanted.

Try to answer this in a non-partisan way please. Do you think one term as a junior senator adequately prepared Obama for the job as President? Was he, at the time of his election more qualified than Romney would have been with Romney's experience in business and his executive experience as governor?

Personally, I think very few people are qualified to be president by their past experiences. It is how they grow into the job that determines history's verdict on them.

[songfourone]

Okay but I have never compared Newt and Romney.

Nope, Mitt supported his wife through 2 illnesses, and Newt left 2 wives with illnesses.

[dsummoner]

External forces?

The massive debt and yearly deficit spending is due in large part to the USD being the global reserve currency. The US is in a world of hurt the day that 'foreigners say no' and the dollar hegemony ends. Coupled with that will be the end of the gravy train of the metastasized 'entitlement' spending of the US.

You can readily find copies of Michael Hudson's (a rather Liberal economist) book Superimperialism online (for 'free'). It makes for a very interesting read.

[songfourone]

The Founding Fathers realized the dangers of mob rule (aka democracy). That is why the US was founded as a democratic republic. They were correct in restricting voting rights to land owners and in not having a tax on income (they screwed up with keeping slavery and in regards to women's right to vote).

Hey now!!

[Mom49of4]

The massive debt and yearly deficit spending is due in large part to the USD being the global reserve currency. The US is in a world of hurt the day that 'foreigners say no' and the dollar hegemony ends. Coupled with that will be the end of the gravy train of the metastasized 'entitlement' spending of the US.

You can readily find copies of Michael Hudson's (a rather Liberal economist) book Superimperialism online (for 'free'). It makes for a very interesting read.

Might I ask another question? I will anyway - do you think we are taxed too much?