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    Quote Originally Posted by dsummoner View Post
    Stop being such a Reichwing Roverite.
    I see that our Secretary of State has cancelled her trip to the Middle East because somebody finally pointed out to her that it is al Qaeda led groups that we are backing in Syria! Perhaps that same "somebody" should sit her down and bring her up to date on Egypt and Libya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    I see that our Secretary of State has cancelled her trip to the Middle East because somebody finally pointed out to her that it is al Qaeda led groups that we are backing in Syria! Perhaps that same "somebody" should sit her down and bring her up to date on Egypt and Libya.
    I am heartened to see that you were able to talk some sense into her. You might wish to consider being a little less stern next time. You gave her the vapors.

    You are still my top choice for Secretary of State.

    BTW, something else that was entirely unpredictable and yet predicted by some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsummoner View Post
    I am heartened to see that you were able to talk some sense into her. You might wish to consider being a little less stern next time. You gave her the vapors.

    You are still my top choice for Secretary of State.

    BTW, something else that was entirely unpredictable and yet predicted by some.
    I am not disputing that this happened, but the only thing real about the UK's 'Sun Newspaper' is the bare-breasted girls Page 3 girls pay tribute to photographer Beverley Goodway - The Sun that warmed the cockles of this old heart on the train commute into the City each morning!

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    .................I know, I am going to hell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    I am not disputing that this happened, but the only thing real about the UK's 'Sun Newspaper' is the bare-breasted girls Page 3 girls pay tribute to photographer Beverley Goodway - The Sun that warmed the cockles of this old heart on the train commute into the City each morning!
    Eye candy and geopolitics are a dangerous mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsummoner View Post
    Eye candy and geopolitics are a dangerous mix.
    Tell me about it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    .................I know, I am going to hell!
    One will just have to remember the Sun when, later on, after the denials hold no water and the less-eye-candied press can no longer run interference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    Tell me about it!
    The intelligence communities might wish to consider the eunuch model that has been historically employed by governments when dealing with state matters of 'sensitivity.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsummoner View Post
    One will just have to remember the Sun when, later on, after the denials hold no water and the less-eye-candied press can no longer run interference.
    I would have the Daily Telegraph (a paper the size of the Wall Street Journal, back then) with the tabloid 'Sun Newspaper' hid from sight inside. The Sports section was pretty good too! When I really didn't want to talk I would sit there with a Russian or Chinese newspaper open that I would pick up from the office (I don't read Russian or Chinese), and found that nobody bothered me for the whole commute!

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    People are starting to get nervous:

    IMF loan to Egypt delayed as crisis deepens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    I see that our Secretary of State has cancelled her trip to the Middle East because somebody finally pointed out to her that it is al Qaeda led groups that we are backing in Syria! Perhaps that same "somebody" should sit her down and bring her up to date on Egypt and Libya.
    And maybe we will find out why security was denied to Ambassador Stevens when it was requested months before the attack. Terrorist groups seem to be running rampant throughout the middle east since the arab spring. We can blame our intel agencies for their inability to get it right, but when a senior security supervisor who works for the State Department ask for extended security because he sees a real threat from local militant groups with Al Qaeda connections, Hillary Clinton should have backed him up period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    And maybe we will find out why security was denied to Ambassador Stevens when it was requested months before the attack. Terrorist groups seem to be running rampant throughout the middle east since the arab spring. We can blame our intel agencies for their inability to get it right, but when a senior security supervisor who works for the State Department ask for extended security because he sees a real threat from local militant groups with Al Qaeda connections, Hillary Clinton should have backed him up period.
    Regardless of whether security was denied or not, it is still the decision of the Ambassador, who is the decision maker on the ground whether it was safe to be in Benghazi or not. He obviously made the wrong decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    Regardless of whether security was denied or not, it is still the decision of the Ambassador, who is the decision maker on the ground whether it was safe to be in Benghazi or not. He obviously made the wrong decision.
    Coming from a military background I don't understand your reasoning. Soldiers are taught to hold the line until their CO's tell them otherwise. Sure, he could have disobeyed orders and ran from his post, but brave and loyal employees will hold the line and do what is expected of them. That is exactly what Stevens did. He didn't fail in his duties. His superior failed in her duties. She failed to protect him. She must be held accountable for her negligence. As she stated, I take full responsibility. What does that statement mean to you? If she had any integrity she would apologize to the families of the follow, and to the country for her failure of duty. If not, then shame on her, and even more shame on her if she runs for president in 2016.

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