Detroit ....Texans ......

[Eastside Terp]

one of the worst calls and/or worst rules of all time ........

texans rb clearly goes down but gets up and runs like 80 yards for td ........

no one blows a whistle so swartz throws the red flag .......

since it was a td, its normally an automatic review so you can't challenge so they penalize swartz 15 yards for the "illegal challenge" and because he made an illegal challenge they can't review the td like they normally do all scoring plays because he can't benefit from the illegal challenge .......

huh ......

replay shows its clearly not a td but it stands and is now a texan team record for longest run .......

[Ravens2006]

Replay is great. The way the NFL muddles it with a stupid process and ridiculous rules is horrendous.

[Eastside Terp]

houston with the ball and a chance to in in ot ........

they don't deserve to win, a black eye for the league if they do ........

[Eastside Terp]

good, they missed the fg to win .......

go detroit .......

[durango46]

and another "on the field horrible call".....it will get over turned

what are these guys looking at ????????

bring back the scabs

[durango46]

Schwartz should be fired

what an idiot.....why would anybody settle for a 48 yd FG on 3rd down...???

and his stupid challenge earlier on a play that would have been reviewed

dude sucks bad


and the refs need to join him in the unemployment line

[SNAFU]

one of the worst calls and/or worst rules of all time ........

texans rb clearly goes down but gets up and runs like 80 yards for td ........

no one blows a whistle so swartz throws the red flag .......

since it was a td, its normally an automatic review so you can't challenge so they penalize swartz 15 yards for the "illegal challenge" and because he made an illegal challenge they can't review the td like they normally do all scoring plays because he can't benefit from the illegal challenge .......

huh ......

replay shows its clearly not a td but it stands and is now a texan team record for longest run .......

One of the main reasons when the NFL implemented instant replay was to get the call right. Only the NFL would shoot itself in it's own foot. Stupid, stupid, rule. Pick the damn red flag up and go to the booth review. Or, as they should of done, ignore the red friggin' flag and go to the booth review. How simple could it be? Nothing is simple with the NFL! Why would they even put in a rule like that, to save time?? They can't even save time by getting the review in under 90 seconds in most cases, as required. That rule needs to go next year.

[Ravens2006]

One of the main reasons when the NFL implemented instant replay was to get the call right. Only the NFL would shoot itself in it's own foot. Stupid, stupid, rule. Pick the damn red flag up and go to the booth review. Or, as they should of done, ignore the red friggin' flag and go to the booth review. How simple could it be? Nothing is simple with the NFL! Why would they even put in a rule like that, to save time?? They can't even save time by getting the review in under 90 seconds in most cases, as required. That rule needs to go next year.

Most plays that go to review could easily be replayed and judged by folks upstairs before a ref typically finishes walking to the stupid on-field booth...

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

I agree that Swartz is an idiot. He should have thrown at least one pass on that last series to try to get a closer fG attempt with less margin for error. Even so, that Texans team, while good is also the luckiest 10-1 team I have ever seen. If not for pure luck they should be 8-3. I really don't think they are all that but play in a pansy division of teams and like the Patriots last season, a very weak schedule.

[BlandFood]

I think Detroit sucks ESPECIALLY on T-Day, at least today they managed to bring the Keystone Cops along. The NFL owes them a big one.

[afan]

Petygrew should be cut plain and simple and if ever a team gave up a game it was Detroit in this one. This QB for the Lions was really great today but what an embarrassment Pettygrew is.

[afan]

I agree that Swartz is an idiot. He should have thrown at least one pass on that last series to try to get a closer fG attempt with less margin for error. Even so, that Texans team, while good is also the luckiest 10-1 team I have ever seen. If not for pure luck they should be 8-3. I really don't think they are all that but play in a pansy division of teams and like the Patriots last season, a very weak schedule.

The Texans peaked against the Ravens and thought they were unbeatable. If ever a team was overly confident it is them

[NCBirdfan]

In any sport, the key is to get things right. No matter what Swartz did, that run should never have been ruled a TD in the first place. The play on the field should always be correct no matter what technicality is presented via a rule. If the NFL wants to penalize a coach for inadvertently throwing the red flag - fine. Give him a 15-yard penalty AFTER reviewing a call to make sure the correct one was made on the field.

To reiterate: Shouldn't getting the call right be the first priority?

[Ravens2006]

In any sport, the key is to get things right. No matter what Swartz did, that run should never have been ruled a TD in the first place. The play on the field should always be correct no matter what technicality is presented via a rule. If the NFL wants to penalize a coach for inadvertently throwing the red flag - fine. Give him a 15-yard penalty AFTER reviewing a call to make sure the correct one was made on the field.

To reiterate: Shouldn't getting the call right be the first priority?

Isn't it amazing that the league actually has the rules structured in a way that they will put more importance on penalizing a team for not following some foolish protocol than they do getting their own calls right?

Replay should be a simple process...

1) All reviews handled completely upstairs between plays, by trained & skilled video operators with knowledge of the rules
2) Unlimited number of challenges
3) A failed challenge results in loss of TO or penalty yardage; your option if you have any TOs left; automatic delay of game if you don't

#1 greatly reduces the amount of time needed to review / decide, and would alleviate some need for coach's challenges on blatantly bad calls.

#2 gives the coach the option of contesting a call no matter what the situation.

#3 prevents a coach from abusing the challenge option.

[NCBirdfan]

Isn't it amazing that the league actually has the rules structured in a way that they will put more importance on penalizing a team for not following some foolish protocol than they do getting their own calls right?

Replay should be a simple process...

1) All reviews handled completely upstairs between plays, by trained & skilled video operators with knowledge of the rules
2) Unlimited number of challenges
3) A failed challenge results in loss of TO or penalty yardage; your option if you have any TOs left; automatic delay of game if you don't

#1 greatly reduces the amount of time needed to review / decide, and would alleviate some need for coach's challenges on blatantly bad calls.

#2 gives the coach the option of contesting a call no matter what the situation.

#3 prevents a coach from abusing the challenge option.

It used to be that the best team on the field won. Apparently though, the NFL doesn't care about that and would rather create controversy. Controversy equals ratings and money - that's all that matters. The hell with integrity of the game. The NFL might as well be an exhibition with scripted results for each of its games. At least it would be honest with its fans.

When a player is down, a player is down. If the refs don't get it right the first time, it needs to be reviewed and fixed. It shouldn't matter what players and coaches do on the sidelines.

[SNAFU]

Here is why the rule is stupid. Say, Detroit doesn't throw the red flag, but Houston does. Penalty, no review, and the TD is kept. Stupid, stupid, rule. Get rid of it NFL!

[Eastside Terp]

Here is why the rule is stupid. Say, Detroit doesn't throw the red flag, but Houston does. Penalty, no review, and the TD is kept. Stupid, stupid, rule. Get rid of it NFL!

if that is true, that's the biggest loop hole since you could take a penalty at the end of the game to stop the clock without a rundown .......

[SNAFU]

if that is true, that's the biggest loop hole since you could take a penalty at the end of the game to stop the clock without a rundown .......

I can't see what could stop Houston from throwing the red flag. If they did, no review could take place. The TD would be confirmed since no review would take place. The unsportmanlike conduct penalty for throwing the red flag would occur on the kickoff. Could you imagine the conversation with the ref and the Houston coach when the ref comes over to ask what you're challenging:

Ref: What are you challenging?

Coach: I'm challenging my runner was down, knee and elbow, on the play.

Ref: You must be nuts! You can't throw a red flag on a automatic booth review. Unsportsmanlike conduct, 15 yards on the kickoff. And NO REVIEW at all for you citing Rule 15 section 9.

Coach: I am nuts! And thank you for the TD!

[HAIL2BNG]

No, the rule only states that the team that threw the red flag can't benefit. A team can't throw a flag to prevent a review.

That said, the whole point is to get the calls correct. This dumb rule runs contrary to that.

[SNAFU]

No, the rule only states that the team that threw the red flag can't benefit. A team can't throw a flag to prevent a review.

That said, the whole point is to get the calls correct. This dumb rule runs contrary to that.

I can't find that in Rule 15 section 9, but let's say it's true, what would happen if the Houston coach did throw the red flag? Assuming a 15-yard penalty, would there still be a review?

Here's an article on the whole deal:

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...o-be-reviewed/