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    Quote Originally Posted by zenwalk View Post
    Journalism used to have schools where you learned to be objective in order to get to the bottom of a story.
    I agree that this used to be the case.

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    That doesn't exist at Fox. You can say journalism standards have fallen and be correct but Fox has no standards whatsoever because it's not journalism, it's propaganda under the guise of false and misleading news "analysis." You can almost throw MSNBC into the same bucket but there is an attempt at honest analysis on the Maddow show. The networks aren't biased so much as strapped for cash.
    MSNBC has been found to be the most biased with or without Maddow. As I said, I had hope for her, but IMO, it just didn't pan out. There has been bias in the media for years, but I think the addition of Fox upset the apple cart because all news organizations were no longer preaching the same message.

    Contrary to what many believe, this isn't a new concept that Pew decided to measure all by themself out of the blue.

    I appreciate the fact that there are other views to consider like Greta Van Susteren. As you said, you pick and choose to get the best information possible.

    When I see the reactionary "Faux News" posted, I wonder why it is necessary to reject an entire cable channel without any attempt to discuss what might be an interesting topic that can be proven or disproven with facts.

    If Fox news is to be ignored, then MSNBC is off limits as well. There are others to consider if we hold them all to the same standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoSad View Post
    I agree that this used to be the case.



    MSNBC has been found to be the most biased with or without Maddow. As I said, I had hope for her, but IMO, it just didn't pan out. There has been bias in the media for years, but I think the addition of Fox upset the apple cart because all news organizations were no longer preaching the same message.

    Contrary to what many believe, this isn't a new concept that Pew decided to measure all by themself out of the blue.

    I appreciate the fact that there are other views to consider like Greta Van Susteren. As you said, you pick and choose to get the best information possible.

    When I see the reactionary "Faux News" posted, I wonder why it is necessary to reject an entire cable channel without any attempt to discuss what might be an interesting topic that can be proven or disproven with facts.

    If Fox news is to be ignored, then MSNBC is off limits as well. There are others to consider if we hold them all to the same standard.
    Are you telling me that Van Sustren is unbiased? In other words, fair and balanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creekman View Post
    Are you telling me that Van Sustren is unbiased? In other words, fair and balanced.
    I find some of her work to be fair and balanced. What do you think about MSNBC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoSad View Post
    I find some of her work to be fair and balanced. What do you think about MSNBC?
    I don't see a dimes worth of difference as far as bias goes. Fox is now an arm of the Republican party and I'm not surprised to see MSNBC to favor the Democrats. If you want to cherry pick you can find some of work in all of them that is not overtly biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    If someone does not watch it for very long then I don't see how that person could be an honest judge.
    I see enough to remind me why I vote Democratic, and why I watch MSNBC, BBC, CNN.

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    At least on Morning Joe you have Joe Scarborough, a Republican and conservative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    MSNBC Had More Negative Coverage Of Romney Than Fox News Did Of Obama, Says Pew



    Is this a big lie?
    No, I believe it is because there was so many negative Romney issues, his taxes, his flip flops on his stances on policies, 47% statement etc. MSNBC had so much more to work with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songfourone View Post
    I see enough to remind me why I vote Democratic, and why I watch MSNBC, BBC, CNN.
    What is really scary is those posters that obviously can't tell fact from fiction, evidenced from the fact that they not only believe some of this stuff but actually repeat it and then proudly provide a link to the tripe as if that makes it so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    MSNBC Had More Negative Coverage Of Romney Than Fox News Did Of Obama, Says Pew



    Is this a big lie?
    Romney had so much baggage how could it have been otherwise Mom?

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    With Romney, when you told the truth, he looked the fool he is.
    ...so FAUX and co lied.
    All MSNBC had to do was tell the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    What is really scary is those posters that obviously can't tell fact from fiction, evidenced from the fact that they not only believe some of this stuff but actually repeat it and then proudly provide a link to the tripe as if that makes it so!
    Thanks for that. So true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by songfourone View Post
    At least on Morning Joe you have Joe Scarborough, a Republican and conservative.
    Not really sure he's a Republican anymore but Id call him a moderate from what I see of him now. Not that that's ALL bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlandFood View Post
    Not really sure he's a Republican anymore but Id call him a moderate from what I see of him now. Not that that's ALL bad.
    I think that Joe is more conservative than he actually comes across on the show and it is the the rest of the Morning Joe team that keeps him more moderate in his views. His voting record in Congress was certainly Conservative for the day. But if you are talking conservative as in Tea Party, then he certainly is not that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoSad View Post
    I can only speak as a moderate. Both MSNBC and Fox may be biased, but a Pew Study has shown MSNBC to have been the more biased of the two networks. I therefore cannot conclude that all of Fox is completely biased since they appeared to be the lesser of two evils. I find it helpful to rely on specific programs that present the most balanced view, but even that can be difficult to do when looking at all networks.
    Here's the difference:
    NBC, which has a long, proud journalistic history, clearly should know better, so I blame them more.
    Fox? Charlatans and fools. Not only do they not know better, they don't even care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoSad View Post
    I agree that this used to be the case.



    MSNBC has been found to be the most biased with or without Maddow. As I said, I had hope for her, but IMO, it just didn't pan out. There has been bias in the media for years, but I think the addition of Fox upset the apple cart because all news organizations were no longer preaching the same message.

    Contrary to what many believe, this isn't a new concept that Pew decided to measure all by themself out of the blue.

    I appreciate the fact that there are other views to consider like Greta Van Susteren. As you said, you pick and choose to get the best information possible.

    When I see the reactionary "Faux News" posted, I wonder why it is necessary to reject an entire cable channel without any attempt to discuss what might be an interesting topic that can be proven or disproven with facts.

    If Fox news is to be ignored, then MSNBC is off limits as well. There are others to consider if we hold them all to the same standard.
    I agree 1000%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlandFood View Post
    One cannot use the word narcissistic unless referring to the turd at 1600 Pa Ave. That pos takes the cake.
    Narcissism has to be the number 1 requirement for the job...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    I think that Joe is more conservative than he actually comes across on the show and it is the the rest of the Morning Joe team that keeps him more moderate in his views. His voting record in Congress was certainly Conservative for the day. But if you are talking conservative as in Tea Party, then he certainly is not that.
    Byngo! Mika keeps him on his toes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzoliberal View Post
    With Romney, when you told the truth, he looked the fool he is.
    ...so FAUX and co lied.
    All MSNBC had to do was tell the truth.
    And tell the truth they did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    I think that Joe is more conservative than he actually comes across on the show and it is the the rest of the Morning Joe team that keeps him more moderate in his views. His voting record in Congress was certainly Conservative for the day. But if you are talking conservative as in Tea Party, then he certainly is not that.
    If he's actually faking it which I doubt he is he likes his paycheck. Doubtful they would tolerate a conservative very long..... look at Buchanan and how they eat their own with upitidy Juancho Williams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Eternal White Belt View Post
    Narcissism has to be the number 1 requirement for the job...
    Often the case, Bush Jr. may be the exception since he didn't flaunt his ego. Bubba probably by far being the worst of the bunch.

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