How FOX News Is Destroying the GOP

[soulflower]

Political parties aren't destroyed by their sycophantic/oppositional news outlets. The GOP would have failed this election with or without the "help" of Fox news and MSNBC.

I disagree.

There is little to no daylight between the RNC and Fox News. They hire the same consultants(ie Karl Rove, Frank Luntz, etc) and listen to the same philosophical voices. I don't know how any objective person can not see that the relationship between the republican party and Fox news is a bit too cozy.

MSNBC doesn't have a comparable relationship with the DNC or the Obama administration.

[dogstarman]

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I have seen NPR being very biased in the past, enough to get me to change the channel. I don't recall the issue, but I do recall the that the information was so slanted, I needed to search for something else.

For the charge of "biased" to actually count for something, it has to be systematic and imbue all the communication of the news source.

Anyone who calls out "bias" should be able to point to an example after a few minutes of searching on the source's website or at least _something_ from every broadcast.

Saying that you heard something once but can't remember what it was, doesn't count.

[dogstarman]

I disagree.

There is little to no daylight between the RNC and Fox News. They hire the same consultants(ie Karl Rove, Frank Luntz, etc) and listen to the same philosophical voices. I don't know how any objective person can not see that the relationship between the republican party and Fox news is a bit too cozy.
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I am not saying that Fox news isn't "in the pocket" of right-wing interests.

I am just saying that Fox news IS NOT the reason the GOP failed this election.

[flyboy56]

Why not? Did Bobo not get a free pass on Benghazi?

Barry made the decision that his presence would not be needed at the Benghazi investigation. Man, it must be nice to be King.

[CajunRaven]

I disagree.

There is little to no daylight between the RNC and Fox News. They hire the same consultants(ie Karl Rove, Frank Luntz, etc) and listen to the same philosophical voices. I don't know how any objective person can not see that the relationship between the republican party and Fox news is a bit too cozy.

MSNBC doesn't have a comparable relationship with the DNC or the Obama administration.

What shows do Luntz and Rove have on Fox?

[dogstarman]

What shows do Luntz and Rove have on Fox?

I don't watch Fox, so I don't know if Rove has his own show.

However, he did have a _hilarious_ (for us liberals) appearance on Fox news on election night.

[ms maggie]

What shows do Luntz and Rove have on Fox?

They are regular contributors, kinda like Ed Rendell and John Heilmann are on MSNBC.

[Byng]

Come on, the networks are biased, and it's aprt of the reason they're strapped for cash. And Maddow is as biased as the next person.

IMHO Maddow has evolved into a very astute political analyst and although she is obviously biased to the left she can hold her own and make her point with just about anybody out there. And at least she can think on her feet in debate rather than just throwing pat soundbites out there. In fact I prefer watching her in debate with both the left and the right rather than giving her all too often political diatribes on her show from a scrip or teleprompter. This woman knows her stuff and is a very impressive up and coming political personality, just don't look to her as your source of news, that is not what she is primarily there to be. (and there are some very good ones on the right too!)

[CajunRaven]

They are regular contributors, kinda like Ed Rendell and John Heilmann are on MSNBC.

Mainly on Hannity from what I've seen.

[soulflower]

What shows do Luntz and Rove have on Fox?

They are appear on Fox regularly as paid contributors. Both are consultants for the Republican party.

[SoSad]

For the charge of "biased" to actually count for something, it has to be systematic and imbue all the communication of the news source.

Anyone who calls out "bias" should be able to point to an example after a few minutes of searching on the source's website or at least _something_ from every broadcast.

Saying that you heard something once but can't remember what it was, doesn't count.

Everything counts. I heard, over a period of time what I considered to be biased reporting and continued to listen until I could no longer take it. My personal experience is not to be discounted simply because you lay out your own criteria. I had an experience that led me to distrust them and I do 100%.

I don't need to give them a second chance, or search, or do any of the things you suggest. I made my own decisions and had come to the conclusion long ago that NPR was biased. I went from listening to them every day to never listening to them.

[SoSad]

I am just saying that Fox news IS NOT the reason the GOP failed this election.

I agree. Otherwise every election would be decided by the various news networks.

[soulflower]

I am not saying that Fox news isn't "in the pocket" of right-wing interests.

I am just saying that Fox news IS NOT the reason the GOP failed this election.

They're not the reason but they're part of the problem for republicans...

[Mom49of4]

Chris Wallace and Shep Smith are hardly rightwing conservatives.

Also include Juan Williams.

[Byng]

They're not the reason but they're part of the problem for republicans...

They certainly did not help the Republican cause, one only has to look at their biased reporting on Benghazi as a point in question.

But Karl Rove has an interesting take/twist, which is the same as he is telling the donors that he took Hundreds of millions of dollars from. And that is if it was not for the reporting of Fox News and the millions of dollars of donated money that he put out in supporting Republican Candidates, the beating that the Republicans took would have been a lot worse. I am not sure that is really a compliment to the Republicans or just Carl Rove justifying his existence and covering his rear?

[zenwalk]

It's ironic that Hannity rhymes with sanity.

[SoSad]

They certainly did not help the Republican cause, one only has to look at their biased reporting on Benghazi as a point in question.

This should be good; who had fair reporting of Benghazi?

[BlandFood]

Also include Juan Williams.

Don't forget Beckle and that racist idiot Lamont Hill.

[Byng]

This should be good; who had fair reporting of Benghazi?

Me!

[BlandFood]

This should be good; who had fair reporting of Benghazi?

ABC spent 15 seconds on it last month.