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    Default Gilman or Westminster ...who's number One

    Thanks 85Knight for not responding to my text asking you who is the better team, now I have to tackle this on my own and without my trusted sooth sayer of predictions.....85 Knightrodamus...


    3 reasons why WESTMINSTER is the better team

    1. The owls were actually one if the not the very first team to introduce the spread to the state of Md (2005) and their very sophisticated ppassing attack is just complicated enough to overwhelm Gilma late in the game.

    2. The owls have played very good competition and a late season game vs Gilman would not be too much for them as it regards Gilman highre level of play.

    3. A off the hook pass rush is the only thing that would stop the Owls...Gilman simply lacks Playmakers on the edge's and could not get to the Owls qb enough to alter the outcome of the game....


    IF THEY WAS TO MEET....Westminster 33 Gilman 30

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentorange View Post
    Thanks 85Knight for not responding to my text asking you who is the better team, now I have to tackle this on my own and without my trusted sooth sayer of predictions.....85 Knightrodamus...


    3 reasons why WESTMINSTER is the better team

    1. The owls were actually one if the not the very first team to introduce the spread to the state of Md (2005) and their very sophisticated ppassing attack is just complicated enough to overwhelm Gilma late in the game.

    2. The owls have played very good competition and a late season game vs Gilman would not be too much for them as it regards Gilman highre level of play.

    3. A off the hook pass rush is the only thing that would stop the Owls...Gilman simply lacks Playmakers on the edge's and could not get to the Owls qb enough to alter the outcome of the game....


    IF THEY WAS TO MEET....Westminster 33 Gilman 30

    You really have no idea what you're talking about! Gilman doesn't have playmakers on the edge, WHAT??? Gilman has the best pass rusher in the state in Junior Melvin Keihn!! The kid is unstoppable! Westminster wouldn't score 30 on Gilman! No one scores on Gilman. Only team to score 30 on Gilman was Moeller and they were helped by 2 turnovers inside Gilman's 20 yard line. Moeller is one of the best teams in the whole country, Westminster is nobody's Moeller!

    People don't realize just how big, fast and strong Gilman's defense is until they see them up close. The best defense I believe in the history of Baltimore! 10 D1 players on one defense is absolutely insane. One of the Rivals analyst was at the CHC-Gilman Championship game and he just kept raving about the Gilman players in defense. Specifically Henry Poggi, Micah Kiser, Melvin Keihn and the best 9th grader the area has ever seen in Ellison Jordan. They would destroy that Westminster OL. Gilman would win by 3 or 4 TD's.

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    Ellison Jordan looks like the best freshman out there but is he a true freshman or a redshirt freshman!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHCCAPTAIN87 View Post
    Ellison Jordan looks like the best freshman out there but is he a true freshman or a redshirt freshman!
    No he's a true 9th grader. He's just on another level. It's scary that he's only in the 9th grade. He had like 10 sacks from the NG position. I think he's a sure fire 5 star. The craziest thing is, the kid that has the highest ceiling in Gilman's Class of 2016 is OL Stephen Spanellis. The kid started at the end of the year and is already like 6'6 275. Heard the kid wears a size 18 shoe, coils be 6'8 by the time next season starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentorange View Post
    Thanks 85Knight for not responding to my text asking you who is the better team, now I have to tackle this on my own and without my trusted sooth sayer of predictions.....85 Knightrodamus...


    3 reasons why WESTMINSTER is the better team

    1. The owls were actually one if the not the very first team to introduce the spread to the state of Md (2005) and their very sophisticated ppassing attack is just complicated enough to overwhelm Gilma late in the game.

    2. The owls have played very good competition and a late season game vs Gilman would not be too much for them as it regards Gilman highre level of play.

    3. A off the hook pass rush is the only thing that would stop the Owls...Gilman simply lacks Playmakers on the edge's and could not get to the Owls qb enough to alter the outcome of the game....


    IF THEY WAS TO MEET....Westminster 33 Gilman 30
    First off AO you really didn't pose that text as a question so I didn't respond. I thought you were just spouting off with one of your random thoughts but since I now know you were serious I'll give you my opinion.

    I've seen Westminster twice this year and they are the best passing team I've ever seen in high school and it's not even close. Their defense is better than you might expect and they play hard. Gilman would have the superior talent so I think it would be a matchup of talent vs. scheme. With the timing routes that Westminster runs I'm not sure if a good pass rush is the answer to stopping them because Kern gets the ball off so quickly. I saw in the Sherwood game that he's faster and more athletic than what I saw in the Martinsburg game so when he scrambles he still gets the ball to his receivers. If you see him you'd think he has been running this offense his whole life. I think it's very possible Westminster could score 30 on Gilman.

    The biggest question is Gilman's offense vs. Westminster's defense. Gilman might be too talented and would eventually overwhelm Westminster on this side of the ball. I would lean towards Gilman winning a high scoring game, 35-28.

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    I don't agree with GA much but I do agree that Gilman wins that by 4-5 TD's .. Gilman is too deep, too fast and just flat out better. Gilman plays the best teams across the country and would just destroy Westminster. People just do realize how talented Gilman is... Don't get caught up in the hype

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    Top private schools that recruit successfully have speed at their skill positions and size on the line. The public school teams take who shows up. Trust me when I tell you Gilman mops the floor with Westminster in football. Its the same reason Gilman puts at least 25 kids per graduating class into the most selective colleges and universities: they actually have admissions criteria and a tough curriculumn. Keep fooling yourself people. See the film from the CHC (average Cardinal team at best this year) and Dunbar game this year if you need a refresher on the private public team balance of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mop View Post
    Top private schools that recruit successfully have speed at their skill positions and size on the line. The public school teams take who shows up. Trust me when I tell you Gilman mops the floor with Westminster in football. Its the same reason Gilman puts at least 25 kids per graduating class into the most selective colleges and universities: they actually have admissions criteria and a tough curriculumn. Keep fooling yourself people. See the film from the CHC (average Cardinal team at best this year) and Dunbar game this year if you need a refresher on the private public team balance of power.
    Gilman is used to playing fast pace teams. Moeller is one of the highest scoring teams around and ran a no huddle offense. They also had the biggest high school OL I have ever seen. Only one player under 285. Westminster has never seen or played a team with the size and speed of Gilman, especially on defense.

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    GILMAN! Westminster just lost. THe Owls had a great season but didn't have enough speed to win it all in the 4a. Oilcan and Greyhound were right after all.

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    The real answer is River Hill!!!! I know I will get shouted down because you are not allowed to say River Hill is good or that anyone on River Hill is good but the team does the one thing your supposed to do. Win and win consistently. Not even the great Gilman can make that claim! Hey GA I heard TRIP is looking for you so he can show you where the hole is he had to crawl in after all his bluster had to stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpediem View Post
    The real answer is River Hill!!!! I know I will get shouted down because you are not allowed to say River Hill is good or that anyone on River Hill is good but the team does the one thing your supposed to do. Win and win consistently. Not even the great Gilman can make that claim! Hey GA I heard TRIP is looking for you so he can show you where the hole is he had to crawl in after all his bluster had to stop.
    Gilman would beat River Hill with a running clock. They wouldn't score on Gilman.

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    We will never know will we! It's unfortunate because it would be a good to see. So you can claim your 21 pts and bluster on but I think it would be a game. I think they could give you more than you think and I think they could win. They are kids and anything can happen on any night. I have seen both teams a few times. Gilmans good no doubt but not as other worldly as you portray!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpediem View Post
    We will never know will we! It's unfortunate because it would be a good to see. So you can claim your 21 pts and bluster on but I think it would be a game. I think they could give you more than you think and I think they could win. They are kids and anything can happen on any night. I have seen both teams a few times. Gilmans good no doubt but not as other worldly as you portray!
    Gilman has the best defense in the state by miles and the beat defense maybe ever in the Baltimore Area. No team can beat Gilman running the ball. Not only would RH not beat Gilman, they wouldn't score. Gilman is MUCH BIGGER, MUCH STRONGER and MUCH FASTER. Gilman has about 20 D1 players on that team. It's a different world.

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    I know they should get all of the all state positions that are available and i heard they are having the BCS crystal football inscribed for them because all of college football has deferred to your superior knowledge and is giving Gilman the BCS title. The NFL said you actually have to play and win the super bowl, Sorry!

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    Good Lord... Just stop Gilman would destroy RH by 5 TD's these comparisons are insane

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    Just stop!! No one knows that for certain! I am not making any claims other than it could be a game. And I do not believe the Good Lord is that interested!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREYHOUND ALUM View Post
    Gilman has the best defense in the state by miles and the beat defense maybe ever in the Baltimore Area. No team can beat Gilman running the ball. Not only would RH not beat Gilman, they wouldn't score. Gilman is MUCH BIGGER, MUCH STRONGER and MUCH FASTER. Gilman has about 20 D1 players on that team. It's a different world.
    Gilman is much bigger and that's about it. Who says RH has to run, they get about as many passing TD's as they do running. It seems that everyone scored on Gilman this year, even Spalding, who you said was terrible. I think RH or any of the top Privates could score on Gilman, and probably give them some worries. If Gilman can't beat them, then shame on them. They are the top Private in the top Private division in the state (excluding WCAC, but that is DC), of course they should win.......but could they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoCoFBFan View Post
    Gilman is theggegger and that's about it. Who says RH has to run, they get about , y passing TD's as they do running. It seems that everyone scored on Gilman this year, even Spalding, who you said was terrible. I think RH or any of the top Privates could score on Gilman, and probably give them some worries. If Gilman can't beat them, then shame on them. They are the top Private in the top Private division in the state (excluding WCAC, but that is DC), of course they should win.......but could they?
    Most folks really do not know how good CHC and Gilman really are. It is too bad they do not play the Westminster, AA, and River Hill teams. In my view to play them would be great win-loss record enhancers.

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    River Hill couldn't beat Middletown. Don't jump into the privates until you can make a case for the privates. Put ur Hawks on a bus to the valley after M&T and see who can speak for the publics!

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    Make a case 4 the publics.

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