Gilman or Westminster ...who's number One

[First_Down]

I know all about Wise they are huge (probably the biggest team in the state) and this is easily the fastest team the school has ever had.

Defensively, they are very good its just that Wise's offense is super, mega conservative. They have 3 very quick running backs and a very big and physical offensive line but I dont know if that would be enough. Quince Orchard has a very athletic and talented defense so we will see how Wise does.

Speed

I've seen Wise twice this year and the characterization of Wise's offense to me is from what perspective you see them. While you would say they are supper conservative, one could just as on point call them very patient. They are a run first and second and third offense tailor made for the climate this time of the year. With their small but super quick and fast backs, they probe the line for a break. Should a crack be revealed at any given time, the backs are homerun hitters who could get gone and do take it to the house. I thought the deep ball in the game against Meade by Wise was thrown to the tightend or the backs out of the back field. Wise is a good solid team that will not beat themselves if they play within their scheme. I don't see them as a team who could light it up if they were down by two or three scores. In a game between Gliman and Wise, I would go to sleep when either team' offense is on the field if you can understand what I'm....

Just sayin'

I just don't see GA's 21-point sweet spot he likes against any team who would face the dawgs.

[afan]

Thanks 85Knight for not responding to my text asking you who is the better team, now I have to tackle this on my own and without my trusted sooth sayer of predictions.....85 Knightrodamus...


3 reasons why WESTMINSTER is the better team

1. The owls were actually one if the not the very first team to introduce the spread to the state of Md (2005) and their very sophisticated ppassing attack is just complicated enough to overwhelm Gilma late in the game.

2. The owls have played very good competition and a late season game vs Gilman would not be too much for them as it regards Gilman highre level of play.

3. A off the hook pass rush is the only thing that would stop the Owls...Gilman simply lacks Playmakers on the edge's and could not get to the Owls qb enough to alter the outcome of the game....


IF THEY WAS TO MEET....Westminster 33 Gilman 30

Well right away your theory is wrong. Working at McDonaugh than at MSJ used the spread offense exclusively. You argument is very full of non facts.

[afan]

By the way Gilman plays National ranked teams at least 3 to 5 times a year. They travel to play the best.

[afan]

Only team that actually scored on Gilman's first team defense was CHC and McDonogh on a bad call. Every other team either scored on Gilman's fourth team or scored on a defensive play like McDonogh on a blocked punt. Gilman was beating Spalding 42-0 in the first quarter. Spalding scored a safety at the end of the game. In fact, The school that River Hill is close to in style is Spalding. And Gilman would best them the same way.

River Hill couldn't pass on Gilman. I see that you haven't seen Gilman play this year. Just to give you a rundown of Gilman's DL. Henry Poggi(Top 50 player nationally), Junior Melvin Keihn(Top 50 junior nationally), Nick Fertitta(will probably end up at Maryland next season) and Frosh Ellison Jordan(best Frosh in the state and might be the best Maryland has ever had). They would DESTROY River Hill's OL!

Back in I think 01 I think the same argument was brought out abour Oakland Mills being the best. They did win the state that year but I think they lost to a good but not great MSJ team 52 to 0. Now when it comes to saying how great teams are, Gilman does it year to year. The other schools once in awhile.

[44Defense]

Back in I think 01 I think the same argument was brought out abour Oakland Mills being the best. They did win the state that year but I think they lost to a good but not great MSJ team 52 to 0. Now when it comes to saying how great teams are, Gilman does it year to year. The other schools once in awhile.

Maybe Gilman needs to play some more Western Pa teams since Maryland football isn't any good. OOh I forgot they got embarrassed back to back years to a five hundred team 8 years ago. I don't care about rankings they are misleading and only based on recruiting.

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

Maybe Gilman needs to play some more Western Pa teams since Maryland football isn't any good. OOh I forgot they got embarrassed back to back years to a five hundred team 8 years ago. I don't care about rankings they are misleading and only based on recruiting.

Gilman got embarrassed by who 8 years ago? Last time I remember Gilman. Playing a Western PA team, they beat them easily(State College). So I have no clue what you're talking about.

[living the dream]

I don't speak to the one clown that's talking to you. Anybody that actually thinks that DeMatha could beat Gilman this year is laughable.

Anyone that thinks it is laughable has no business talking football. Dematha hung with Good Counsel. Gilman hung with Good Counsel. Therefore, you would have to assume it would be a good game. And personally, I think Dematha would beat them.

[hssports]

Anyone that thinks it is laughable has no business talking football. Dematha hung with Good Counsel. Gilman hung with Good Counsel. Therefore, you would have to assume it would be a good game. And personally, I think Dematha would beat them.

I agree. If Gilman played DM twice this year (as GC did) there is a very very good chance that DM wins at least 1 and maybe both games. Gilman's league schedule was weak. Most MIAA teams lost OOC games. The MIAA was down big time this year. Gilman boasted about beating Bosco. But, as we see, Bosco is down this year having lost again. I like River Hill or Wise or DeMatha as the #2 team in the State depending on next weeks outcome.

[hssports]

Good Counsel is the undisputed consensus number 1.. and you annoint Gilman #2 but I think most local people, besides you, think Dematha is better than Gilman. Thankfully for us, there is not a Dematha lunatic on here as psychotic as you, that has as much time as you, that has as little of a life as you, to state their case. But rest assured, Gilman is not the second best team in the state. I've seen them play and you have way overrated them. They should be #3 at best!!!

ps- I wish I had a dollar for every time you said one of the following things:
- best frosh ever Ellison Jordan
- Top 20 lineman Henry Poggi
- Best defense ever in state of maryland (crock of ****, you played a bunch of crappy teams and lost to the good teams, minus bosco).
- Melvin Kiehn blah blah blah (I have an idea, shut up)

Your season is over, nobody cares, hit the basketball boards.

One of the best post on this board. Bosco isn't that great either - having just lost to St. Joseph's Prep. Bosco claims it is their worst team in years! Gilman may schedule OOC games and good for them. But, just because you schedule them doesn't mean you get ranked high. I like RH, Wise or DeMatha at #2 depending on the outcome this week.

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

One of the best post on this board. Bosco isn't that great either - having just lost to St. Joseph's Prep. Bosco claims it is their worst team in years! Gilman may schedule OOC games and good for them. But, just because you schedule them doesn't mean you get ranked high. I like RH, Wise or DeMatha at #2 depending on the outcome this week.

DeMatha got stomped by Gonzaga! Enough said! Three losses in the area, Gilman would have beat Gonzaga wih a running clock. I saw DM multiple times, they weren't very good. Now next year, DM should be number 1 in the state. They bring back almost their whole team.

Stop talking about Bosco losing, they lost to a Top team not some bums.

[carpediem]

What Gilman should have done is won the games they played. If they did that you would not have to be on here trying to convince Everyone why they deserve a ranking higher than the record indicates. Like my dad always told me " the guy who has to tell everyone how great he is is probably not a great guy". Nobody lives that quite like you GA. You do a disservice to a very good school and a good program. Be quiet and let the program speak for itself.

[hssports]

DeMatha got stomped by Gonzaga! Enough said! Three losses in the area, Gilman would have beat Gonzaga wih a running clock. I saw DM multiple times, they weren't very good. Now next year, DM should be number 1 in the state. They bring back almost their whole team.

Stop talking about Bosco losing, they lost to a Top team not some bums.

Funny, how you bragged about how great Bosco was after Gilman beat them:

Bosco beat St. Thomas Aquinas 20-10 last night making Gilman's victory over them look even more like the biggest win in state's history! Where's my friend Harco at right now? He predicted a 6 loss Bosco team this year and for Aquinas to beat the breaks off of Bosco! As I told Harco and the board, Bosco doesn't just lose two games in a row. That they don't rebuild, they reload! This is something that makes what Coach Poggi and his staff did last week all the more remarkable. They didn't look good this week against a really solid Charlotte Christian team but that is expecting after such a big win.

Good Counsel just took a hit though. Gorman lost at home against Bergen Catholic. New Jersey looking solid right now.

On another note, have to thank the CHC people for showing me a lot of love last night at the game. Special thanks to Mr. Epple and my good friend McDaniel, I had a blast!

You tried to claim it was "like the biggest win in state's history". Now, you don't want anyone to mention that Bosco lost to St. Joseph's Regional. Sorry, can't have it both ways. Gilman's win wasn't that big and Bosco isn't that great! Bosco has stated openly that this isn't a good team by their standards. DM avenged their loss to Gonzaga ( who is a good team). That is why I like them as a possible #2 in the State - will have to see what Wise and RH does. Sadly for you, Gilman's strength of schedule just took a hit and Gilman may drop to 3 or 4. Sorry, it is what it is.

[hssports]

What Gilman should have done is won the games they played. If they did that you would not have to be on here trying to convince Everyone why they deserve a ranking higher than the record indicates. Like my dad always told me " the guy who has to tell everyone how great he is is probably not a great guy". Nobody lives that quite like you GA. You do a disservice to a very good school and a good program. Be quiet and let the program speak for itself.

Amen +1

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Funny, how you bragged about how great Bosco was after Gilman beat them:

Bosco beat St. Thomas Aquinas 20-10 last night making Gilman's victory over them look even more like the biggest win in state's history! Where's my friend Harco at right now? He predicted a 6 loss Bosco team this year and for Aquinas to beat the breaks off of Bosco! As I told Harco and the board, Bosco doesn't just lose two games in a row. That they don't rebuild, they reload! This is something that makes what Coach Poggi and his staff did last week all the more remarkable. They didn't look good this week against a really solid Charlotte Christian team but that is expecting after such a big win.

Good Counsel just took a hit though. Gorman lost at home against Bergen Catholic. New Jersey looking solid right now.

On another note, have to thank the CHC people for showing me a lot of love last night at the game. Special thanks to Mr. Epple and my good friend McDaniel, I had a blast!

You tried to claim it was "like the biggest win in state's history". Now, you don't want anyone to mention that Bosco lost to St. Joseph's Regional. Sorry, can't have it both ways. Gilman's win wasn't that big and Bosco isn't that great! Bosco has stated openly that this isn't a good team by their standards. DM avenged their loss to Gonzaga ( who is a good team). That is why I like them as a possible #2 in the State - will have to see what Wise and RH does. Sadly for you, Gilman's strength of schedule just took a hit and Gilman may drop to 3 or 4. Sorry, it is what it is.

Again, Gilman cares less about any state ranking! Gilman is ranked on the Top 25 in USA Today, Top 40 in Scout, Top 60 according to Rivals NATIONALLY! Don't care about any state poll. By the way, St. Jose's Regional would blow out any team in the state not named Gilman or GC.

[hssports]

Again, Gilman cares less about any state ranking! Gilman is ranked on the Top 25 in USA Today, Top 40 in Scout, Top 60 according to Rivals NATIONALLY! Don't care about any state poll. By the way, St. Jose's Regional would blow out any team in the state not named Gilman or GC.

I wish Gilman all the success in the world! The polls will adjust after the Bosco loss and Gilman will probably fall lower. Moeller isn't even ranked in the USA Today Top 25 and they rolled Gilman -not sure why Gilman is even ranked in this poll. I'm glad Gilman wants to be ranked nationally but they need to take care of business at the State level first. 3rd or 4th best team in a small state like MD. won't get it done. Hope they play DM again so it can be settled on the field! Either DM, RH or Wise could end up 2.
St Joseph's Regional lost to GC and they beat Bosco. Is GC's win now the greatest ever in the State of MD? The answer is of course not. Just as it was not the greatest win ever when Gilman beat Bosco. Bosco, as Harco pointed out, just isn't that good this year!

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I wish Gilman all the success in the world! The polls will adjust after the Bosco loss and Gilman will probably fall lower. Moeller isn't even ranked in the USA Today Top 25 and they rolled Gilman -not sure why Gilman is even ranked in this poll. I'm glad Gilman wants to be ranked nationally but they need to take care of business at the State level first. 3rd or 4th best team in a small state like MD. won't get it done. Hope they play DM again so it can be settled on the field! Either DM, RH or Wise could end up 2.
St Joseph's Regional lost to GC and they beat Bosco. Is GC's win now the greatest ever in the State of MD? The answer is of course not. Just as it was not the greatest win ever when Gilman beat Bosco. Bosco, as Harco pointed out, just isn't that good this year!

Gilman will remain ranked number two in the state, keep hoping maybe your dream will come true.

Gilman will remain an Elite team in the Country. In the State of Maryland, only three teams matter Nationally, DM, GC and Gilman. No one has heard or cares about a Wise, River Hill, QO, etc. You would get laughed off the National boards talking about these teams. Be happy with your state championships, let the big boys do the heavy lifting.

[speedin23]

Gilman will remain ranked number two in the state, keep hoping maybe your dream will come true.

Gilman will remain an Elite team in the Country. In the State of Maryland, only three teams matter Nationally, DM, GC and Gilman. No one has heard or cares about a Wise, River Hill, QO, etc. You would get laughed off the National boards talking about these teams. Be happy with your state championships, let the big boys do the heavy lifting.

Dallas Jackson had River Hill ranked 85 in the nation in his final 2008 top 100 poll. He had Sherwood ranked 26 that year and Linganore ranked 34 the next year.

I read those national boards sometimes and the consensus right now is Don Bosco Prep would murder Gilman if they played again (I dont agree btw). DeMatha hasnt gotten any national respect since St. Xavier crushed them on national TV back in 2007. Most of those posters all think their own state is the best.

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Dallas Jackson had River Hill ranked 85 in the nation in his final 2008 top 100 poll. He had Sherwood ranked 26 that year and Linganore ranked 34 the next year.

I read those national boards sometimes and the consensus right now is Don Bosco Prep would murder Gilman if they played again (I dont agree btw). DeMatha hasnt gotten any national respect since St. Xavier crushed them on national TV back in 2007. Most of those posters all think their own state is the best.

The consensus is only from Bosco posters. Gilman should have beaten Bosco by more than what it did. I personally believe that Gilman would beat GC if they played again. I picked GC to beat Gilman because of the fact that Gilman would be playing them with four days rest after plying a very big physical Ohio powerhouse.

2008 is a very long time in the landscape of High school football. It's not the same game anymore. The amount of money and OOS games weren't the same back then. Which is one of the reason why schools like Phoebus now gets no respect.

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The consensus is only from Bosco posters. Gilman should have beaten Bosco by more than what it did. I personally believe that Gilman would beat GC if they played again. I picked GC to beat Gilman because of the fact that Gilman would be playing them with four days rest after plying a very big physical Ohio powerhouse.

2008 is a very long time in the landscape of High school football. It's not the same game anymore. The amount of money and OOS games weren't the same back then. Which is one of the reason why schools like Phoebus now gets no respect.

Now you are just getting delusional. Gilman was not better than GC when they played and is not better now. GC lost the ball 3 times on fumbles in that game and Gilman still couldn't beat them. GC dominated the stats as published in the Washington Post. Dream on my friend, dream on.....That defense you brag about ("the best ever!") was shredded and your only response was "I didn't see GC throw for 240 yards"
Gilman got their *****e$ handed to them on the national stage vs Moeller. Prior to the game, you were telling everyone that Gilman was representing all MD. football... you were laughed off this board and the Ohio message boards....I give you credit - you are persistent.
Sorry, I like Gilman and what their coach (who is a great man) represents but I'm sure he will be the first to tell you that they lost to a better team 2 months ago and nothing has changed. Give some respect to a team that has beaten Gilman 3 out of the last 4 years. Please don't come on here after the season is over and state "we can beat them now"
Will be very interesting to see how much Gilman drops due to the Bosco loss.

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Now you are just getting delusional. Gilman was not better than GC when they played and is not better now. GC lost the ball 3 times on fumbles in that game and Gilman still couldn't beat them. GC dominated the stats as published in the Washington Post. Dream on my friend, dream on.....That defense you brag about ("the best ever!") was shredded and your only response was "I didn't see GC throw for 240 yards"
Gilman got their *****e$ handed to them on the national stage vs Moeller. Prior to the game, you were telling everyone that Gilman was representing all MD. football... you were laughed off this board and the Ohio message boards....I give you credit - you are persistent.
Sorry, I like Gilman and what their coach (who is a great man) represents but I'm sure he will be the first to tell you that they lost to a better team 2 months ago and nothing has changed. Give some respect to a team that has beaten Gilman 3 out of the last 4 years. Please don't come on here after the season is over and state "we can beat them now"
Will be very interesting to see how much Gilman drops due to the Bosco loss.

Again, I PREDICTED A GC WIN! But you fail to mention that in your last diatribe.

Turnovers IS A PART OF THE GAME! No one laughed anybody anywhere clown! I'm still here and pretty much right on with everyone of my predictions this year. The season is over, keep wishing Gilman falls in the rankings and hoping that one of your JV squads gets the nod as first place loser, otherwise known as #2 in the State Rankings.