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    You know, I watch this mini-marathon today on History HD and was amazed. I mean I remember reading about these characters in school, but the shows retold the story with a little more truth, and I'm sure, a little more truth. They represented a time and mentality I fear we would have been headed back to at full military speed had Romney won the November election. That mentality is sooo 2 centuries ago! I wonder if many of us (you) realize just how close we were to going backwards,... back to the days of greed set upon us by the likes of Rockerfeller, Vanderbilt, Rockerfeller, Carnegie & Morgan? And the way those clowns bought the nomination and eventual election of McKinley is so reminiscent of this past presidential election it's almost scarey,... as does Rockerfeller, Carnegie & Morgan, so does Adelson, Simmons, Perry, Rowling & Koch. Both generations of corporatists trying to purchase a POTUS that would roll back regulation, and give them free to wreak greed based havoc on us once all over again. Unbelievable that some people are so blind and naive to buy into mentality.

    For those of you who missed it,... it's well worth the watch. Especially all you right wingers out there. WAKE UP! Seems as though all the jargon they sold us then they still trying now. it's almost embarrassing that Michael Steele is from my home state. LOL! Man,... I thought God stop making stupid! Apparently not!

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    How much money are the six largest investment banks getting per quarter under QE ad infinitum and ZIRP?

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    Goble-D-Goup! Did you watch the mini-marathon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericpd View Post
    Goble-D-Goup! Did you watch the mini-marathon?
    No. Now about answering the question that I posited to you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsummoner View Post
    How much money are the six largest investment banks getting per quarter under QE ad infinitum and ZIRP?
    Exactly, they don't have to even make anything now. The government is handing them the money without a peep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericpd View Post
    You know, I watch this mini-marathon today on History HD and was amazed. I mean I remember reading about these characters in school, but the shows retold the story with a little more truth, and I'm sure, a little more truth. They represented a time and mentality I fear we would have been headed back to at full military speed had Romney won the November election. That mentality is sooo 2 centuries ago! I wonder if many of us (you) realize just how close we were to going backwards,... back to the days of greed set upon us by the likes of Rockerfeller, Vanderbilt, Rockerfeller, Carnegie & Morgan? And the way those clowns bought the nomination and eventual election of McKinley is so reminiscent of this past presidential election it's almost scarey,... as does Rockerfeller, Carnegie & Morgan, so does Adelson, Simmons, Perry, Rowling & Koch. Both generations of corporatists trying to purchase a POTUS that would roll back regulation, and give them free to wreak greed based havoc on us once all over again. Unbelievable that some people are so blind and naive to buy into mentality.

    For those of you who missed it,... it's well worth the watch. Especially all you right wingers out there. WAKE UP! Seems as though all the jargon they sold us then they still trying now. it's almost embarrassing that Michael Steele is from my home state. LOL! Man,... I thought God stop making stupid! Apparently not!
    Which is worse, greed from industrialists or decay, corruptness and lawlessness from the elimination of greed from industry.

    Greedy industrialists built this nation into the most powerful in the world, that greedy nation was the ONLY nation in the world that could and did stop Hitler and the Russians from world domination.

    Look what we have become without the greedy industrialists.

    Our nation's cities are crumbling as we speak, decay and crime are rampant. Baltimore has 41,000 vacant homes. Chicago has 20 to 30 shootings on a slow weekend. It is hard to name a major US city that has a prospering population, or even a population where fear from crime is absent.

    Under greedy industrialists, our nation had the world's best educational system. Today our schools are likely beyond repair.

    The majority wanted Obama, you got what you asked us, just be prepared for the reality of what you asked for.

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    Crime rates? Rampant? Look at the facts. Compare crime rate now to past decades. Oh and btw, Russia defeated Hitler.

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    I watched big chunks of it while doing stuff around the house. There are lessons to be learned for both "sides". Morgan, Carnegie and Rockefeller were smart businessmen with vision who built their businesses from nothing and made vast fortunes. The unions killed those businesses within a century. The men figured out how to buy a president, something that both sides do today.

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    Who are the 1%?

    excerpt;


    The next time a politician starts talking about "shared sacrifice" and "skin in the game," send them this Alternet article that puts that horse hockey in perspective:


    1. Only THREE PERCENT of the very rich are entrepreneurs.

    According to both Marketwatch and economist Edward Wolff, over 90 percent of the assets owned by millionaires are held in a combination of low-risk investments (bonds and cash), personal business accounts, the stock market, and real estate. Only 3.6 percent of taxpayers in the top .1% were classified as entrepreneurs based on 2004 tax returns. A 2009 Kauffman Foundation study found that the great majority of entrepreneurs come from middle-class backgrounds, with less than 1 percent of all entrepreneurs coming from very rich or very poor backgrounds.

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    That's not to take anything away from the 1% that are honest and hardworking.

    It's just that most of them are slackers and leeches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ms maggie View Post
    Crime rates? Rampant? Look at the facts. Compare crime rate now to past decades. Oh and btw, Russia defeated Hitler.
    Oh yes, Russia defeated Hitler all by themselves. And cities are the safest places to live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzoliberal View Post
    Who are the 1%?

    excerpt;


    The next time a politician starts talking about "shared sacrifice" and "skin in the game," send them this Alternet article that puts that horse hockey in perspective:



    1. Only THREE PERCENT of the very rich are entrepreneurs.

    According to both Marketwatch and economist Edward Wolff, over 90 percent of the assets owned by millionaires are held in a combination of low-risk investments (bonds and cash), personal business accounts, the stock market, and real estate. Only 3.6 percent of taxpayers in the top .1% were classified as entrepreneurs based on 2004 tax returns. A 2009 Kauffman Foundation study found that the great majority of entrepreneurs come from middle-class backgrounds, with less than 1 percent of all entrepreneurs coming from very rich or very poor backgrounds.

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    That's not to take anything away from the 1% that are honest and hardworking.

    It's just that most of them are slackers and leeches.
    Many of them can be slackers and leeches because they are in congress.

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    Doofuses who don't know how to make $$$ hate those who do. Except if the moneymakers are lyberals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ms maggie View Post
    Crime rates? Rampant? Look at the facts. Compare crime rate now to past decades. Oh and btw, Russia defeated Hitler.
    I will certainly toss out all of my misprinted history books.

    I actually thought that the US forces that landed on Normandy beach, were the force that smashed Hitler within months after the landing.

    And the 200 plus homicides in Baltimore each year are another myth about crime?

    Thanks for enlightening me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheResearcher View Post
    Doofuses who don't know how to make $$$ hate those who do. Except if the moneymakers are lyberals.
    Its pretty darn easy to make money (even you could probably move out of your mom's basement and do it).

    Some are consumed by it and some choose to spend their short lives to improve the world. In the end, how much money we managed to amass doesn't mean much.

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    Who are the 1%?

    Corzine (D, 1%). Now, Libbies, you may run away in abject fear and terror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBay View Post
    Its pretty darn easy to make money (even you could probably move out of your mom's basement and do it).

    Some are consumed by it and some choose to spend their short lives to improve the world. In the end, how much money we managed to amass doesn't mean much.
    I own 3 houses and rent out two of them to people get a background check going back to their childhood so I always get paid. But I'm sure my Mom would be glad to have a lyberal loser live in her basement so she could laugh at what a loser it is.

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    these are men who most certainly received help to gain their fortunes. what did they say? 1-11 men died on the job to amass these mens fortunes?

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    So-called 'labor' was paid as a cost of production. Nothing 'extra' was owed to such 'labor' or the spawn of such 'labor.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheResearcher View Post
    I own 3 houses and rent out two of them to people get a background check going back to their childhood so I always get paid. But I'm sure my Mom would be glad to have a lyberal loser live in her basement so she could laugh at what a loser it is.
    Right. You've lost credibility with extreme views so far from reality that when actual fiscal conservatives post, you can't help yourself from calling them "lyberal".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericpd View Post
    Goble-D-Goup! Did you watch the mini-marathon?
    Only the one in his mind, only the one in his mind.

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