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Nope!Originally Posted by Oriole-Bob
I'm sure you would be singing the same tune right now had that play done what it does 99% of the time and ended up with a 10 yard gain 20 yards short of the 1st down.... right???
But I would not call an NFL quarterback on an 8-3 team an idiot either.
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As was already noted, Flacco and the offense were moving the ball on the first two series of the game, but dropped passes that hit Bolden and Jacoby right in their hands stopped those drives.
Also, the play calling was better in the second half. They were calling plays that allowed Joe to get the ball out of his hands quickly. We need more of that.
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You're right, they just don't get it. I guess it was Joe's fault Bolden and Jones dropped two balls that hit them in the hands on the first two offensive possessions.What do people expect of/from Joe? I've given up trying to figure that one out. He's done more with less than just about any other QB in the NFL. Some folks either really don't get it, don't want to get it, or else have some sort of agenda to try to devalue Joe's value and worth to the team. It's one thing to just have a difference of opinion; what's going on here is definitely something else. Meanwhile, the Ravens are 9-2, and the Steelers are 6-5. That truly boggles the mind. (But not in a bad way.)
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I have to agree. if Rice doesn't make that 1st down, this thread doesn't even exist. The offense is putting up just enough points to win games. That may work against the Chargers losers of 5 out of 6 or against the Steelers playing an injured back up qb, but good luck with that against RG3 and the Mannings
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I wouldn't call him an idiot, but the reality is no one watching that game at the time was happy when that dump off happened. Anyone who claims they saw 30 yards coming from that play is a straight up liar
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Sure he should have just heaved it downfield up for grabs with no one open and the Chargers DBs and linebackers just sitting back twenty some yards waiting for it. That would have been idiotic. With them laying as far off the line of scrimmage as they were at least a dump off to Rice had a chance. I guess it was also Flacco's fault in the AFC championship game that Evans dropped the winning TD. Is he Brady or Peyton in his prime? No but he helps get this, team in the playoffs every year since he has been here.
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The Ravens won. 9-2. BE HAPPY
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You had them losing to the Chargers and you are ****ing complaining? Unreal. The Mannings come here where the Ravens offense actually functions much better. People keep counting this team out and waiting for them to fall apart, hasn't happened.
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Who's complaining? I'll take the win no matter how ugly it is. Oh and they were one lucky play from losing to the Chargers. You really think 16 points in 4.5 quarters will beat either of the Mannings?
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They win and sometimes you need a little luck, the O's sure did. Far as the Mannings are concerned I will remind you again they come here where the Ravens are averaging 36.8 points per game. Of course 16 points won't be enough to beat Eli and Peyton but the Ravens seem to function better offensively at home.
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How about 55 in 4? Look, they've already shown they can beat you 13-10 or 44-13, or 31-30 so you don't know what you're gonna get with this offense, but they keep doing enough to win. They're usually good at home, and the D is improving..so I like like this team's chances against the Mannings, RGIII or anybody else. This game had to be one hell of a confidence booster for this squad. I like them against anybody right now.
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Agreed. +1
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and one bad call from being 10-1...see how that works?
16 is enough to beat any team if you hold them under 16....the giants are a jeckyl and hyde team....very beatable in M&T....broncos....became one dimensional yesterday...the key to beating the Broncos is keeping Thomas bottled up.....
of course the fact the Ravens are averaging over 30 points a game at home makes having to hold teams under 16 a little less necessary.....
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I still can't understand why there is talk about Joe and his play as a QB. All he has done since coming here is win. He has helped lead this team to wins in every possible way. Why is it never enough?
I had someone text me during the game yesterday saying the Ravens should leave Joe in SD. Really? He's not one of the top five or maybe not even one of the top ten but he is good enough to win and get the Ravens to the SB.
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it's very simple....ravens fans a schizo went it comes to QBs...all Flacco does is win, but he does it without a lot of flair, drama and style...see the comments about the way he looks on the sidelines...he looks the same whether the ravens are wining or losing...that apparently is a problem, even though being even-keeled is a much better personality when it comes to dealing with the immediate success or failure of a given play...style is far more important to some than results....a couple of the vocal minority have already expressed their displeasure because they woke up this morning realizing the ravens won again and didn't rack up enough style points in the process....
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It's also inextricably linked to the difference to how the Ravens OFFENSE, as a whole, plays on the road vs home, which is inextricably linked to the game calling by Cam Cameron. For some reason, people can't seem to see the difference between Cameron's game planning/schemes on the road vs home, and they dump it all on Joe. I CAN see the difference, and therefore don't fault Joe for Cameron's ineptitude. Fortunately for the Ravens, Joe has been able to pull out some tight, tough wins in spite of, not because of, Cam Cameron.
(And anyone who thinks the win yesterday was ONLY because of Rice's miraculous 4th down run really does not understand the first thing about the game of football. Sure, without that ONE RUN, the game is over. But the game -- and Joe's 355 passing yards!!! -- had a lot more to do with the win than just that one run.)
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it's taken awhile for me to come around to join the Cam must go group....it is really baffling how the Ravens have two different offenses dependent on game location....I can't think of another team in the league that is like this....
Rice made an outstanding play to keep the drive going....however, he would not have been successful without Joe getting him the ball or Boldin's block (which was not a clip not matter how much Merrill Hoge whines that it was)....
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Best descripition of this years crazy team I have read.
Jeckel or Hyde, either way they win in most cases and that has to effect each player on the Ravens team as well as those they play against.
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Better late, than never.
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Cool! Now we are getting somewhere. You say you see the difference between Cam's playcalling at home vs. his playcalling on the road. Will you tell us what you see is different so we can look for it during the next few days? Also this is great news for the organization because we can get your info about the playcalls to Ozzie somehow and the differences that you see will be fixed immediately, i'm sure....but I digress. What are the differences? please do tell and don't come back with 'i don't have to tell you anything"
I'm calling you out. when you say silly stuff like this, I will call you out every single time. Now tell us what you see is different in the game calling.
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