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Thread: Please explain why 4th&29 converts and 4th&inches fails

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens2006 View Post
    On the 4th and inches play, it's worth watching Michael Oher's contribution (or lack thereof). "1 Winning Drive" highlights that play in the replay package this week. Just looking at how it was blocked, it makes me think that the point of the shift might have been to set up the run as a cut-back to the left behind the "jumbos". The right side gets pushed back a hair but seems to put helmets on helmets. The left side did a decent job getting some push. Except for Oher. He actually flinched before everyone else (maybe early), you can see it clearly on the show. Then he just gets smoked off the snap by his guy, who proceeds to then make the tackle. He needed to get over to seal Liuget off, and didn't even come close. He flinched at the worst possible time, then got caught "stopping himself" when the actual snap was made. That left him flat footed, while Liuget was virtually untouched.

    If Oher just battles him to a draw, there was plenty of space for Pierce to cut back and pick up the first down... and probably several more yards. But Oher did virtually nothing on the play. In all honesty, the play would have looked exactly the same if Oher hadn't even been on the field and they ran it with 10 men.
    Great post. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens2006 View Post
    On the 4th and inches play, it's worth watching Michael Oher's contribution (or lack thereof). "1 Winning Drive" highlights that play in the replay package this week. Just looking at how it was blocked, it makes me think that the point of the shift might have been to set up the run as a cut-back to the left behind the "jumbos". The right side gets pushed back a hair but seems to put helmets on helmets. The left side did a decent job getting some push. Except for Oher. He actually flinched before everyone else (maybe early), you can see it clearly on the show. Then he just gets smoked off the snap by his guy, who proceeds to then make the tackle. He needed to get over to seal Liuget off, and didn't even come close. He flinched at the worst possible time, then got caught "stopping himself" when the actual snap was made. That left him flat footed, while Liuget was virtually untouched.

    If Oher just battles him to a draw, there was plenty of space for Pierce to cut back and pick up the first down... and probably several more yards. But Oher did virtually nothing on the play. In all honesty, the play would have looked exactly the same if Oher hadn't even been on the field and they ran it with 10 men.
    If that was the designed play to run a cut back on a 4th and inches then thats a terrible play call, either you qb sneak or plow straight ahead. Judging by Harbaugh's reaction I don't think that was the original play call, he was livid on the sideline I thought his head was going to explode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rave-O View Post
    If that was the designed play to run a cut back on a 4th and inches then thats a terrible play call, either you qb sneak or plow straight ahead. Judging by Harbaugh's reaction I don't think that was the original play call, he was livid on the sideline I thought his head was going to explode.
    I saw the same thing - none of us will ever know for sure but it sure looked like the original call was changed at the line of scrimmage.

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    Yes Joe did an audible. If he makes it you guys would have said great call. You just can't have it both ways. If Joe doesn't audible you are angry if he does you are upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by West Chester Raven View Post
    I saw the same thing - none of us will ever know for sure but it sure looked like the original call was changed at the line of scrimmage.
    Oh, we would know if the Sun reporters would do their job!

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    I thought that if Pierce had bounced it outside he would have picked up the 1st down.....

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