It means the Arab League fired the first shots of the war and once the war was on, it was on. Land changes hands when war happens, It's been that way since the dawn of timeOriginally Posted by Daan
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It means the Arab League fired the first shots of the war and once the war was on, it was on. Land changes hands when war happens, It's been that way since the dawn of time
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Palestine is an Occupied Territory. This demand that Palestine's Officials recognize Israel is a demand for Homage from an overlord and therefore a demand for Allegiance to Israel. That's a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. But this is the downside. Palestine is not a party to Fourth Geneva Convention so they are not entitled to it's full protections. But once Palestine signs and ratifies the Fourth Geneva Convention and is entitled to it's full protection. That demand becomes illegal.
This the real reason Israel makes such a big deal about that. In keeping the spotlight and focus on the Hamas Charter. That takes attention off the Likud Charter that does not recognise Palestines right to exist as a sovereign state. In fact it prohibits Palestine from ever existing as a sovereign state. So Hamas is not the only one that needs to make changes to their Charter. Until Likud changes their Charter or is removed from power any negotiations on a two state solution are a moot point. You would have better luck trying to get a cat to bark like a dog.
So short an not so sweet. In this thing that we call negotiations that are little more than us draging Palestine to the table and holding them down as Israel tries to rape them. As Israel is trying to rape Palestine. No Palestine does not have to kiss Israel and tell them they love them. They are free to hate with a boiling seething purple passion until the end of time those who have victimized them. Just ask any Holocaust survivor about that.
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They can pick and choose their leaders. But we can't pick and choose their leaders and neither can Israel. Try telling Israel this. We see the real problem with Two State Solution. Hamas' Charter will not allow them to regonize Israel's right to exist as a sovereign state and Likud's Charter will not allow them to regonize Palestines right to exist as a sovereign state. So in our eyes there is no difference, other than race and regligion, between Hamas and Likud. So Palestine must get rid of Hamas and Israel must get rid of Likud. Then and only then will we allow negotions to continue.
Stand back and watch the fireworks.
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Yep and they're free to be attacked when they do dumb shiite. Great plan
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No, that's a wives tale. It's illegal to aquire territory by military conquest. That's why we don't own England, Germany, Japan, Iraq or any other nation we defeated in war.
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Popcorn is the best approach!
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As long as it's kosher popcorn, eh?Popcorn is the best approach!
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'Palestine' must repudiate the Medinan-era chapters of the Qu'ran and repudiate Muhammad as the al Insan al Kamil in that both serve as a basis for the Hamas Covenant. The root cause of the conflict is a religious one and not a secular one. 'We' should have nothing to do with this conflict as it is none of 'our' business to be involved.
The fireworks arising from the interventionist US foreign policy coupled with the vapidity of trying to force the religious conflict into one of secularism are quite amusing to watch.Stand back and watch the fireworks.
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I understand that is your description of the Palestinian Arab strategy for almost 65 years, but I'm pretty sure I've hear that phrase before.
I'm just not sure if it relates to a defunct 1960's psychedelic band, or some homicidal jihadi terror group...
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When did we invade England or Japan? We had no interest in keeping German or Iraq territory. We did however go to war with Native Americans and kept the land. Hitler took land in most of Europe. Every country on the planet at some point it's boundaries were based on territory taken in war. Are you really this dense?No, that's a wives tale. It's illegal to aquire territory by military conquest. That's why we don't own England, Germany, Japan, Iraq or any other nation we defeated in war.
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I agree that this is none of our Business. We should fast track a full membership to the UN and let them work it out at the UN using international law and treaties.'Palestine' must repudiate the Medinan-era chapters of the Qu'ran and repudiate Muhammad as the al Insan al Kamil in that both serve as a basis for the Hamas Covenant. The root cause of the conflict is a religious one and not a secular one. 'We' should have nothing to do with this conflict as it is none of 'our' business to be involved.
The fireworks arising from the interventionist US foreign policy coupled with the vapidity of trying to force the religious conflict into one of secularism are quite amusing to watch.
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Your second sentence is in contradiction to your first.
International Clown Law, as an aside, is the height of codified Western imperial aggression and has no place in the multipolar world.
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Once again wives tales. Actually we bought the land from the Indians. Selective memory? However we did steal 13 colonies from King George.
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I'm not picky as long as it's buttered.As long as it's kosher popcorn, eh?
These threads pop up frequently and the conversation is always the same. What's the point beyond feeling the need to bloviate.
I'll have a tub with a large coke please.
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Not at all. If by "Western" you mean American. We've been over this before extensively. The founders of America incorporated many of the concepts of the Persian Empire under Cyrus the Great into the US Constitution.Your second sentence is in contradiction to your first.
International Clown Law, as an aside, is the height of codified Western imperial aggression and has no place in the multipolar world.
That reminds me. We'll have to resume our discussion on Dualism. Possibly at the other place they have a religion/philosophy section. I have started thread for it.
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You really are dense
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I'm not so sure the Indians would agree with you on this one.Once again wives tales. Actually we bought the land from the Indians. Selective memory? However we did steal 13 colonies from King George.
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I'm pretty sure that no one with more than 2 brain cells would agreeI'm not so sure the Indians would agree with you on this one.
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Don't any of you understand????
Every single country in the world (with one exception) was established and is currently populated by their original inhabitants, or was wholly created via a mutally agreed upon and fair selling price by the rightful and original owners.
In addition, there are NO world countries (with one exception) that were established via political edict, result of war, expansion, settlement, changing of political bounderies, etc.
Israel is that one exception.
And that my friends, is a legitimate cause for "hate with a boiling seething purple passion until the end of time""
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Palestine statehood passes 138-9, with 41 abstaining
UN resolution A/67/L28 granting Palestine non-member observer state status passes, 138-9 with 41 abstaining.
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