Britain Ready To Back Palestinian Statehood At UN

[flyboy56]

Don't any of you understand????

Every single country in the world (with one exception) was established and is currently populated by their original inhabitants, or was wholly created via a mutally agreed upon and fair selling price by the rightful and original owners.

In addition, there are NO world countries (with one exception) that were established via political edict, result of war, expansion, settlement, changing of political bounderies, etc.

Israel is that one exception.

And that my friends, is a legitimate cause for "hate with a boiling seething purple passion until the end of time""

By divine right, they are living on their promised lands

[Daan]

It means the Arab League fired the first shots of the war and once the war was on, it was on. Land changes hands when war happens, It's been that way since the dawn of time

According to my calendar, January and April occur BEFORE May.

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[Sprightly]

Palestine statehood passes 138-9, with 41 abstaining

UN resolution A/67/L28 granting Palestine non-member observer state status passes, 138-9 with 41 abstaining.

And Britain abstained. What a way to take a position.

[WKDWZD]

By divine right, they are living on their promised lands

By the right given to them in 1947 they are living in a state created by the UN and Britain. Divinty has zero to do with it.

[WKDWZD]

And Britain abstained. What a way to take a position.

I agree, I am ashamed of William Haig our foreign secretary for being lilly livered and not taking a position.

[beeg jacques]

According to my calendar, January and April occur BEFORE May.

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According to everyone's calendar, Arab attacks, violence and terror against the Jews in Palestine began right after they rejected the UN Partition vote.

The UN General Assembly resolution of 29 November 1947, which endorsed the partition of Palestine into two states, triggered haphazard Arab attacks against Jewish traffic. The first roadside ambushes occurred near Kfar Syrkin the following day, when two buses were attacked and seven Jewish passengers were shot dead. The same day, snipers in Jaffa began firing at passers-by in Tel Aviv. The AHC, which flatly rejected the resolution and any thought of partition, declared a three-day general strike, beginning on 1 December, thus releasing the urban masses for action. On 2 December a mob, unobstructed by British forces, stormed the (Jewish) new commercial centre in Jerusalem, looting, burning shops and attacking Jews. Snipers exchanged fire in Haifa and attacks were launched on the neighbourhoods of Tel Aviv that adjoined Jaffa and its suburbs. Parts of Palestine were gripped by chaos; the escalation towards full-scale civil war had begun. As in 1936, NCs were set up in the Arab towns to direct the struggle and life in each locality, and bands of irregulars re-emerged in the hill country. The AHC reasserted itself as the leader of the national struggle.

Strategically speaking, the period December 1947 – March 1948 was marked by Arab initiatives and attacks and Jewish defensiveness, increasingly punctuated by Jewish reprisals. [b]Arab gunmen attacked Jewish cars and trucks, from late December increasingly organised in British- and Haganah-protected convoys, urban neigbourhoods and rural settlements and cultivators. The attackers never pretended to single out combatants; every Jew was a legitimate target.

[cprenegade]

Once again wives tales. Actually we bought the land from the Indians. Selective memory? However we did steal 13 colonies from King George.

Really? And with their new found wealth they went and set up those beautiful little reservations too. I suspect there would be some native american indians who would like to sit down and give you a little history lesson.

[Sprightly]

I agree, I am ashamed of William Haig our foreign secretary for being lilly livered and not taking a position.

Having "observer status" isn't really a huge deal. Palestine doesn't get a vote on resolutions -- same as the Vatican. Maybe Britain is waiting to vote when real statehood is addressed.

[WKDWZD]

Having "observer status" isn't really a huge deal. Palestine doesn't get a vote and is on official state. Maybe Britain is waiting to vote when real statehood is addressed.

If that was truly the case, why were the US an Israel so opposed to the move?

[Sprightly]

If that was truly the case, why were the US an Israel so opposed to the move?

And Canada? Maybe those countries see it as the beginning of a slippery slope.

And it is the case.

[Byng]

Having "observer status" isn't really a huge deal. Palestine doesn't get a vote on resolutions -- same as the Vatican. Maybe Britain is waiting to vote when real statehood is addressed.

Actually it is "a huge deal" Sprightly, because Palestine for the first time can now join international bodies such as the international criminal court. This is one of the main reasons for Israeli opposition, fearful that the Palestinians might try to launch a case over Jewish settlements on the West Bank or over military attacks on the West Bank and Gaza.

[WKDWZD]

And Canada? Maybe those countries see it as the beginning of a slippery slope.

And it is the case.

What "slippery slope" are you referring to?

[zenwalk]

No. Without the ceaseless mania of the Arabs to drive the Jews into the sea, we could have saved a ton of money. Their refusal to accept a two state plan on at least three occasions, is the biggest part of the problem.

So that tells you the problem is intractable. Next question. Now what?

[ivanbalt]

No, that's a wives tale. It's illegal to aquire territory by military conquest. That's why we don't own England, Germany, Japan, Iraq or any other nation we defeated in war.

Yeah, the US never got any land through war...

[ivanbalt]

If that was truly the case, why were the US an Israel so opposed to the move?

The official answer would be you don't make peace with Israel and get a state by backdooring things through the UN. The realpolitik might be slightly different...

[zenwalk]

Prediction: Israel will recognize Palestine in the same way the Germans recognized Vichy. Abbas will rubber stamp the phony agreements and Hamas will continue to lob rockets with increasing ferocity. And we'll continue to subsidize the slaughter.

[ivanbalt]

Palestine statehood passes 138-9, with 41 abstaining

UN resolution A/67/L28 granting Palestine non-member observer state status passes, 138-9 with 41 abstaining.

The good news is that it's the Palestinian Authority that has the observer status. I wonder how the nice folks in Hamas feel?

[Sprightly]

Actually it is "a huge deal" Sprightly, because Palestine for the first time can now join international bodies such as the international criminal court. This is one of the main reasons for Israeli opposition, fearful that the Palestinians might try to launch a case over Jewish settlements on the West Bank or over military attacks on the West Bank and Gaza.

I don't believe your opinion to be accurate. Palestine is not an official state and cannot join international treaties nor participate in the ICC. At least at this time.

[Byng]

The good news is that it's the Palestinian Authority that has the observer status. I wonder how the nice folks in Hamas feel?

Hamas will not like it but the people of Garza will. It is going to be much more difficult for Bibi Netanyahu to "kick the puppy in Garza" every time he throws a hissy fit like he threw after Romney lost the US Election, and started this last bust-up! Now he will have to actually wait for the Palestinians to fire first rather than provoking them into firing back.

[Byng]

I don't believe your opinion to be accurate. Palestine is not an official state and cannot join international treaties nor participate in the ICC. At least at this time.

You are of course entitled to your own opinion Sprightly!