Warrren Buffett: They (wealthy tax-dodgers) were the moochers, and they paid zero"

[skeemer]

Maybe you overestimated your own ability to have a discussion? Dismissing every response because you don't agree with it isn't the best approach.

The comedy in it is, I am mostly on Buffet's (and Obama's) side on taxes, but Calamari can't handle even the slightest criticism of its posts.

Buffett is a poor vehicle for this policy due to his own shortcomings on taxes. He's the antithesis of populism and Main Street; he is quite oppositely the poster boy for crony capitalism and 'do as I say, not as I do.'

[Contumacious]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...ney-s-47-.html
The real moochers and parasites are being revealed.

When I Call Warren Buffett a Bolshevik Billionaire...

Posted by David Kramer on January 23, 2012 07:22 PM
...I know of what I speak:

"He [Romney] makes his money the same way I make my money," Buffett said. "He makes money by moving around big bucks, not by straining his back or going to work and cleaning toilets or whatever it may be. He makes it shoving around money." [Where does the money come from to pay those "real" workers to do those jobs, Warren, you MORON?]

Yeah, Warren, you're such a "greedy, capitalist pig." In reality, what Romney's Bain Capital does is very important in the marketplace. On the other hand, Buffett—having made his billions in the second biggest scam (the Fed being the first) ever perpetrated on the sheeple—is the richest fraudulent huckster in the history of the NYSE.

And, for the umpteenth* time, Warren, if you're feeling such "guilt" over not paying enough in robbery taxes ("funny" how he protected all of his wealth in his tax-exempt foundation throughout his wealth-accumulating career rather than paying taxes to his beloved government like the rest of us sheeple), you can always mail the U.S. Treasury a very generous check."

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[ivanbalt]

The comedy in it is, I am mostly on Buffet's (and Obama's) side on taxes, but Calamari can't handle even the slightest criticism of its posts.

Buffett is a poor vehicle for this policy due to his own shortcomings on taxes. He's the antithesis of populism and Main Street; he is quite oppositely the poster boy for crony capitalism and 'do as I say, not as I do.'

I give Buffett credit for his charity and calling on his fellow ultra-rich to pay their fair share. But at the same time, I highly doubt he got to be ultra-rich by being pro-tax and paying a fair share.

It's the same as Al Gore. It's good that he made a discussion about climate change. But it's hard to take his message seriously when he uses 100x the energy that I do.

[songfourone]

Calamari is rather pathetic with his constant whining and victimization, isn't he?

Personally? I pay my taxes gratefully, but at least I want to know that it is a fair system.

[Calamari]

When I Call Warren Buffett a Bolshevik Billionaire...

Posted by David Kramer on January 23, 2012 07:22 PM
...I know of what I speak:

"He [Romney] makes his money the same way I make my money," Buffett said. "He makes money by moving around big bucks, not by straining his back or going to work and cleaning toilets or whatever it may be. He makes it shoving around money." [Where does the money come from to pay those "real" workers to do those jobs, Warren, you MORON?]

Yeah, Warren, you're such a "greedy, capitalist pig." In reality, what Romney's Bain Capital does is very important in the marketplace. On the other hand, Buffett—having made his billions in the second biggest scam (the Fed being the first) ever perpetrated on the sheeple—is the richest fraudulent huckster in the history of the NYSE.

And, for the umpteenth* time, Warren, if you're feeling such "guilt" over not paying enough in robbery taxes ("funny" how he protected all of his wealth in his tax-exempt foundation throughout his wealth-accumulating career rather than paying taxes to his beloved government like the rest of us sheeple), you can always mail the U.S. Treasury a very generous check."

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See post #3.

[songfourone]

Exactly



My bet is he is so much more pro tax now.




Exactly the answer. That way everyone has an equal amount of skin in the game and the more you make, the more you pay.

People whine about the rich not paying their fare share when there are a boatload of people who pay in $3000 a year and then in March get $6000 dollars "back". What they're really getting is their $3000 back and $3000 of my tax dollars handed to them. People don't whine when these people are taking money that's not theirs. Why? Because that's the way the tax code is written and they are taking full advantage of it. So why is it if some uber weathy rich guy/gal can manage to pay no taxes because they took advantage of the tax code as it is written do you get your panties all tied in a knot? They're doing the same thing as the folks getting "back" more than they paid in. If you don't like the tax code, then fix it. If what the rich are doing is legal, then so be it. But I can only hope that the tax code will be fixed in a way that will prevent the IRS from continuing to be the mechanism for the redistribution of wealth.

No one is begrudging anyone is taking full advantage of the tax code, but I think what Buffett is saying is that the tax code is heavily geared to the uber wealthy, and that needs need to change.

[Contumacious]

See post #3.

"Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as
possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the
treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes.
Over and over again the Courts have said that there is nothing sinister
in so arranging affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everyone
does it, rich and poor alike and all do right, for nobody owes any
public duty to pay more than the law demands."


Judge Learned Hand
(1872-1961), Judge, U. S. Court of Appeals
Source:

in the case of Gregory v. Helvering 69 F.2d 809, 810 (2d Cir. 1934), aff'd, 293 U.S. 465, 55 S.Ct. 266, 79 L.Ed. 596 (1935)

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[NCBirdfan]

Exactly



My bet is he is so much more pro tax now.




Exactly the answer. That way everyone has an equal amount of skin in the game and the more you make, the more you pay.

People whine about the rich not paying their fare share when there are a boatload of people who pay in $3000 a year and then in March get $6000 dollars "back". What they're really getting is their $3000 back and $3000 of my tax dollars handed to them. People don't whine when these people are taking money that's not theirs. Why? Because that's the way the tax code is written and they are taking full advantage of it. So why is it if some uber weathy rich guy/gal can manage to pay no taxes because they took advantage of the tax code as it is written do you get your panties all tied in a knot? They're doing the same thing as the folks getting "back" more than they paid in. If you don't like the tax code, then fix it. If what the rich are doing is legal, then so be it. But I can only hope that the tax code will be fixed in a way that will prevent the IRS from continuing to be the mechanism for the redistribution of wealth.

Most likely, it is because the "uber wealthy rich" are the ones who write the tax codes (with help from "donations" to their favorite politicians). I doubt someone earning $3,000 has any say on how the tax code should be implemented.

[Brohan]

This is rich. What credibility does a white male, hypocrite 1%, tax cheat like Buffett have?

What's next Barry, seeking counsel from Charlie Sheen on how to end the war on drugs?

Don't we already have the AMT?

This is just more ATM between Warren and Barry.

[Calamari]

I give Buffett credit for his charity and calling on his fellow ultra-rich to pay their fair share. But at the same time, I highly doubt he got to be ultra-rich by being pro-tax and paying a fair share.

It's the same as Al Gore. It's good that he made a discussion about climate change. But it's hard to take his message seriously when he uses 100x the energy that I do.

Extra credit for anyone who can tell me which logical fallacy this abuses.

[dogstarman]

The tax code is heavily in favor of the super-wealthy BECAUSE the super-wealthy have systematically inched toward this condition for decades by using their influence.

Sadly, such influence has only been accelerating as it is now possible for individuals and corporations to contribute unlimited amounts of money to political campaigns (albeit indirectly).

One thing about the super-rich that is surprising to non-multi-millionaires, is that they value money MORE than others. In other words, you would be mistaken to think that "10 dollars" for someone like Mr Koch is considered, by him, as the equivalent of "1 penny" for us. "10 dollars" for many super-rich folks is treated with more regard than it is by your typical salary man making 100K.

Given this perspective, there is NO WAY IN HELL that the ungodly sums of money spent by individuals on political campaigns doesn't have many, many "strings attached."

The tax code is the way it is because people PAID FOR IT to be that way. Undemocratic, nasty, and under-handed. That needs to change.

[ivanbalt]

Extra credit for anyone who can tell me which logical fallacy this abuses.

Maybe you overestimated your own ability to have a discussion? Dismissing every response because you don't agree with it isn't the best approach.

Indeed.

[Contumacious]

Extra credit for anyone who can tell me which logical fallacy this abuses.

Extra credit for the parasites whose New Year resolution is to learn a marketable skill and to BECOME GAINFULLY EMPLOYED AND THEREBY CEASING AND DESISTING to depend on the taxpayers for the Pho King support.

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[Calamari]

Indeed.

See post #20.

[skeemer]

See post #20.

Your surrender is acknowledged.

[dogstarman]

Extra credit for the parasites whose New Year resolution is to learn a marketable skill and to BECOME GAINFULLY EMPLOYED AND THEREBY CEASING AND DESISTING to depend on the taxpayers for the Pho King support.

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What about "the parasites" who work multiple part-time jobs with dependents and are one paycheck or medical emergency away from financial ruin? What about seniors living on social security?

These are "the parasites" which entitlements and programs are typically helping and NOT welfare queen straw-man you people love to cite.

[skeemer]

Extra credit for the parasites whose New Year resolution is to learn a marketable skill and to BECOME GAINFULLY EMPLOYED AND THEREBY CEASING AND DESISTING to depend on the taxpayers for the Pho King support.

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Extra credit for me, who has a marketable skill (civil engineering) and is gainfully employed (as an engineer) subsisting and depending on the taxpayers (federal and state gas tax revenues, and other appropriations) for support.

Thanks Contumacious, for paying my bills!

[Brohan]

What about "the parasites" who work multiple part-time jobs with dependents and are one paycheck or medical emergency away from financial ruin? What about seniors living on social security?

These are "the parasites" which entitlements and programs are typically helping and NOT welfare queen straw-man you people love to cite.

The government has failed these people yet again. It's too bad the gov't is so corrupt and irresponsible.

[Contumacious]

What about "the parasites" who work multiple part-time jobs with dependents and are one paycheck or medical emergency away from financial ruin?

Extra credit for those Americans who take the time to check the HISTORICAL FACTS which demonstrate that government meddling in the healthcare is what has made medical services so expensive and unaffordable for large segments of the population.

Prior to 1965 my parents use to pay $3 to $5 dollars for a doctor's visit.

What about seniors living on social security?

Those folks already paid their dues.

But they should demand that social security be privatized to prevent future generations from falling prey to the Ponzi scheme.

These are "the parasites" which entitlements and programs are typically helping and NOT welfare queen straw-man you people love to cite.

Parasites also include war profiteers and those who depend on government handouts.

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[Contumacious]

Extra credit for me, who has a marketable skill (civil engineering) and is gainfully employed (as an engineer) subsisting and depending on the taxpayers (federal and state gas tax revenues, and other appropriations) for support.

Thanks Contumacious, for paying my bills!

Civil engineering?

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