Last edited by Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!; 12-01-2012 at 03:28 PM.
Last edited by Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!; 12-01-2012 at 03:29 PM.
"Wood knocks, howls and whoops would serve them well. They are also reported to imitate owls and birds."
Here, you're just making stuff up or rather repeating stuff other people have claimed. Why would a 9 foot tall, 500 Lb animal mimic a bird to avoid detection? Such a creature would rule it's environment and obviously make quick work of anything it considered a threat. Imagine a grizzly or brown bear imitating a bird in order to scare off a preditor (man) half it's size.
Not trying to be a buzzkill, and this stuff is interesting.
But saying they can outrun a horse, or that they are "reported" to imitate owls and birds...who makes such claims and what do they have to back that up?
It's an incredible amount of knowledge and understanding of a creature you have to admit has never been actually studied first hand and up close.
There is also another book called Raincoast Sasquatch by Robert Alley which tells of sitings in Alaska. There is another book called Tribal Bigfoot and yet another called The Hoopa Project where eyewitnesses (many of them Native Americans) were interviewed and gave descriptions of the Bigfoot's facial features to a police sketch artist. These books are by David Paulides. And of course there is: Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science by Dr. Jeff Meldrum.
Here is a link from In the Footsteps of the Russian Snowman - the Story of Zana, which IMHO is fascinating.
The man who investigated and reported this story, Igor Burtsov, was interviewed on a MonsterQuest episode about this.
I also know the full story of the PG film. I have a copy of Roger Patterson's original book "Do Abominable Snowmen of America Really Exist?
Last edited by Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!; 12-01-2012 at 03:35 PM.
Can we please just keep to the thread topic in these posts and not make them about me? I am not that interesting or entertaining I can assure you. Just ask my wife. Nobody truly cares about that whatsoever. Please just keep on the topic at hand. Thanks.
How do you address the reality that hybrids, by definition, are sterile? The only way to have a population of hybrids is to have multiple cross-species matings (or to create them in the lab). Are there some men in the remote PNW so lonely that they are hooking up with Bigfoot females? And repeatedly?
I thought originalcoltsfan was old19fan? ........
he's the new qb expert down on the raven's forum taking old 19's place .......
When I was in college, we learned that all dogs belonged to a single species descended from a common gray wolf like ancestor. Thinking has changed, thanks to DNA analysis in the 1990's. Today, all dogs are considered to be a subspecies of the gray wolf. While some of the largest, more wolf-like dogs in morphology can physically mate with wolves - and do, the offspring are not true hybrids, since they are still members of the same species. This is how the rarest endangered animals like Galapagos tortoises may be restored - by forcing them to breed with other, closely related subspecies. (Unfortunately, tortoises are very selective in mate choice and usually refuse to have anything to do with another subspecies - hence the nickname "lonesome George", RIP)
One can create almost anything in the lab between closely related species and subspecies. But they are usually infertile - which makes it difficult to sustain a population (and serves to maintain separate species at contact zones).
Besides the genetics (chromosome pairs a serious issue) problems of large hominids, possibly the greatest block to reproduction could be behavioral. Even 15,000 years ago, Homo sapiens was so advanced that I cannot imagine such a pairing. I know lots of species that could theoretically hybridize, but don't because they have behavioral isolating mechanisms.
I'm a skeptic. It doesn't mean its completely impossible. And I think Bigfoot research can be an interesting, harmless hobby.
There is also the interesting story of Albert Ostman, a Canadian prospector who was allegedly carried away and held captive for several days by a family of sasquatch, apparently with the idea of his being a suitable mate for the daughter in the family, but he escaped before this could be confirmed. Here is the link:
Last edited by Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!; 12-01-2012 at 10:22 PM.
If a mystery hominid is ever found fresh, say from a vehicle collision, these things could be tested. Eggs could certainly be frozen in nitrogen to await an experiment. I'm not an ethicist, but I doubt that experimental crosses would be approved.
That Ostman story was pretty good - thanks for providing the link. Keep in mind that scientists are by nature, skeptics, conservative, and reluctant to believe stories at face value. I'll be a believer when a body is found. If you're still around when that happens, feel free to tell us all "I told you so".
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