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    Bealefeld

    How does he get this teaching job without a degree? I thought in order to teach credit classes the instructor must have a degree. Did I miss something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curls View Post
    Bealefeld

    How does he get this teaching job without a degree? I thought in order to teach credit classes the instructor must have a degree. Did I miss something?
    Well you know there is always rules to the exception.

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    Where does it say he's teaching?

    I see this

    We have been fortunate to know and work closely with Fred over the past several years, and out of this relationship evolved an interest to become further engaged with our criminal justice program," said Jim Salvucci, dean of the School of Humanities and Social Sciences at Stevenson
    "I am excited to be working with the students to help them connect the knowledge they receive in the classroom with real-world experiences that prepare them for careers in law enforcement and public safety," Bealefeld said

    It doesn't say he's teaching

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    Where does it say he's teaching?

    It doesn't say he's teaching
    The move comes after much speculation about what arguably the city's most successful top cop in recent history would do after retiring this year. Bealefeld will serve as a full-time distinguished professional in criminal justice and instructor, teaching coursework for undergraduates and helping develop a center for criminal justice.
    I am guessing this means he is teaching. But they call him a professional. Not a professor.

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    Nothing wrong with that.

    The guy has spent his entire career in the police starting from the bottom and going to the top. 4 years of college is certainly an excellent early-career boost for most people, but it doesn't mean that someone like him isn't qualified to lecture to students about subject matter in which he is a demonstrated expert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    Where does it say he's teaching?

    I see this






    It doesn't say he's teaching

    Did you read it.....

    "Bealefeld will serve as a full-time distinguished professional in criminal justice and instructor, teaching coursework for undergraduates and helping develop a center for criminal justice."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curls View Post
    Did you read it.....

    "Bealefeld will serve as a full-time distinguished professional in criminal justice and instructor, teaching coursework for undergraduates and helping develop a center for criminal justice."
    Your link doesn't give me that paragraph, besides as Demo pointed out, it doesn't specify him as a professor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogstarman View Post
    Nothing wrong with that.

    The guy has spent his entire career in the police starting from the bottom and going to the top. 4 years of college is certainly an excellent early-career boost for most people, but it doesn't mean that someone like him isn't qualified to lecture to students about subject matter in which he is a demonstrated expert.
    I agree. 15 years of college does not equal a career on the street and in leadership

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    Quote Originally Posted by demopublican View Post
    I agree. 15 years of college does not equal a career on the street and in leadership
    I agree

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    He has several degrees worth of personal experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogstarman View Post
    Nothing wrong with that.

    The guy has spent his entire career in the police starting from the bottom and going to the top. 4 years of college is certainly an excellent early-career boost for most people, but it doesn't mean that someone like him isn't qualified to lecture to students about subject matter in which he is a demonstrated expert.
    Excuse me, the guy spent the last few years in an office, throwing Officers 'under the bus' and doing anything the Mayor told him. Not exactly an expert in criminal justice, but more than qualified to teach in a MD university.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt
    He has several degrees worth of personal experience..
    Odd that Officers who spent time on the actual streets are never credited with personal experience by the Academia.

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    If you think Bealefeld did the mayors bidding? I can't wait for you to get a full year with Batt's. The bus is going to run over a lot more bodies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curls View Post
    Bealefeld

    How does he get this teaching job without a degree? I thought in order to teach credit classes the instructor must have a degree. Did I miss something?
    Stevenson is private so its probably easier for them vs a state school
    I'm sure non-certified teachers could teach credit classes as long as they meet some kind of training.
    Bill Gates doesnt have a degree, I'm also sure every college and university in the country would give their left nut to have him join their faculty and they would get him approved to teach anything he wants (and ask him to contribute to their endowment once they become buddy buddy with them)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    He has several degrees worth of personal experience.
    For those who actually KNOW him / worked with him, it would surprise you (just as it embarrassed most of the BPD) how much he DOES NOT know about actual policing. Do a little research into the various positions for which he has applied -- and been turned down -- with other agencies since his pending "retirement."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawman 27 View Post
    Odd that Officers who spent time on the actual streets are never credited with personal experience by the Academia.
    Because Fred spent SO LITTLE "time on the actual streets," it is no surprise that he had absolutely no respect whatsoever for the Uniformed Patrol Officer. Why else do you think he had no problem with so many units within the Department going out and creating their own little customized uniforms so they would not be associated with Patrol? Since he had NO IDEA what a real Police Officer does, he made his contempt of Patrol obvious throughout his tenure.

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    Okay Straightshooter show us the "research" you have done???

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    Quote Originally Posted by happygolucky1 View Post
    Okay Straightshooter show us the "research" you have done???
    Almost 30 years in the BPD, direct contact, and friends in other law enforcement agencies/organizations who participated in his interviews or have knowledge of his applications. His resume is public knowledge -- it shows his minimal time spent on the streets. As for his contempt of Police Officers, just look at the department! Watch his interviews! Count the uniforms we have! The entire nation thought the dude/skateboard incident was between a mall cop and a kid because of that "uniform." Why does the BPD have the highest ratio of detectives to patrol officers than any other agency? We all know that while he postured on TV that he was NOT about stats, patrol officers had and have to report their "stats" an hour or two before the end of every shift, and if they have not met "certain minimums," they are pulled from patrol duties to go out and get those numbers! He even told a group of police, one of which was me, that even though we were stopping a record number of vehicles, we were stopping the "wrong ones," and that we were to only stop the cars with "bad guys with guns." That screams total ineptitude for patrol (and even human) abilities. At his retirement, not a single BPD member, other than his driver and the person who introduced him, stepped up to speak of Fred's time in the BPD -- that spoke volumes.

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    As someone who is not a cop, I don't give a damn about uniforms. What does that have to do with public safety? This is a "systems" job. It is all about long haul performance and not inevitable blips like the mall-cop/skateboarder incident.

    If you ask me, Norris was a excellent commissioner in terms of improving public safety and the subsequent ones have been OK as far as not screwing things up.

    Unfortunately, this town chews up police commissioners like 80's hair bands went through drummers. Bealefeld was probably lucky to get out unscathed.

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    Newsflash: All a degree proves is you have the ability to learn. Nothing beats hands on experience.

    Good luck in your position Mr. Bealefeld.



    Now, please continue with the bs bickering over his qualifications.

    If you want to question qualifications, especially for how to run a city, I suggest you check your city council members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogstarman View Post
    As someone who is not a cop, I don't give a damn about uniforms. What does that have to do with public safety?
    It actually IS a systems thing. It reflected the fact that numerous units were off doing whatever they wanted, with no real controls as long as they produced stats.

    As for safety, it is HUGE, which is why there are so many laws about police and uniforms, such as the one that REQUIRES an immediately recognizable standard uniform of that jusridiction be present during the service of a search and seizure warrant, or the one that states that a driver DOES NOT need to stop if the vehicle or person trying to stop them IS NOT in the immediately recognizable standard uniform of that jusridiction. And as for officer safety, if anyone cares (ha), when crap hits the fan and OFFICERS ARE HURT/KILLED by friendly fire, one contributing factor has been a lack of a standard uniform on the scene. I have been on dozens of active scenes where I cannot tell who is police and who isn't. If I cannot, how is a citizen supposed to know who is the real police officer?

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