Wedding bells for same-sex couples; bye-bye domestic partnerships

[songfourone]

No, it's quite the opposite. It seems like they are the only group that it is OK to bash and make fun of on a constant basis. Being a straight man, I find it tiring.

Being a straight woman, me too ;(

[songfourone]

No, we are not. Bmoreteacher has a partner (are they fiancés yet?). I'm single with no plans to marry.

But thanks for the well wishes. I hope the best for those who decide to take the plunge.

As my son says let the gay population be as miserable as we are with marriage, divorce and children

[songfourone]

I wonder what they will want next.

Donald Downer.

[Baltimatt]

This has been quite a ride.

What's different about this time is that people were actually voting on permitting same-sex marriage, not prohibiting it.

While we were in most cases on the defensive, with anti-SSM folks bringing the issue to the ballot, it was different in Maine, where proponents of SSM brought the issue before the voters. I thought it was too soon after the defeat there in 2009, but I'm glad I was wrong.

In Maryland and Washington state, a same-sex marriage law passed by the legislature was petitioned to referendum. Maine's 2009 vote was also on a legislatively-passed bill. Minnesota had the old-fashioned constitutional amendment to bar same-sex marriage.

After the passage of an extremely restrictive amendment in North Carolina this past May, I was quite disheartened, but now we can claim victory. However, this is not the first time, as an Arizona amendment to ban same-sex marriage and civil unions was defeated in 2006, although a marriage-only prohibition passed in 2008.

Reporting on this issue has often been quite sloppy. Minnesota's defeat of the amendment would not make same-sex marriage there legal, despite some news stories to the contrary. The difference between Maine and what was to be voted on in Maryland and Washington was also often not clarified.

And, as someone noted, the opponents of SSM have been moving the goalposts. When same-sex marriage came to be by court ruling, we heard that the legislatures needed to do this, not the courts. When legislatures started passing same-sex marriage laws, we heard that something this important needed to be decided by the people. Now that the people have decided, as Smokey said, I wonder what they will want next. Note that I am speaking of the opponents of same-sex marriage.

[Haberdasher]

Ken I expected better than this crap from you. Believe me I am about as far away from being gay as a person can get. My objections are to the "social engineering" going on to make it seem normal in peoples eyes. Sorry, but it just isn't normal. Nothing wrong with not being normal but don't try to pretend that it is.

One man and one woman being married for life is not normal.

Why do they keep advocating for that? Why do they want to pretend it is normal when it is not?

[bmore_ken]

Ken I expected better than this crap from you. Believe me I am about as far away from being gay as a person can get. My objections are to the "social engineering" going on to make it seem normal in peoples eyes. Sorry, but it just isn't normal.

Yeah it is normal. There's nothing more normal than two people in love who want to spend their lives together and raise a family

[octoburn]

No I wouldn't. You have me wrong Yuca and its probably my fault for arguing on this thread. I don't care what people do that have nothing to do with me. I believe in minding my own business. Even though I do object to the way gays have argued their position most of my argument is tongue in cheek and a dig at bmoreteacher who I like to mess with (not in a sexual way) on the board. I like to watch him get hysterical.

Your plan backfired. If you're actively wondering what they want next, then you do care. And posting more than three times as much as bmoreteacher on this thead trying to convince people that you do not isn't convincing anyone, even yourself.

[songfourone]

songfourone--

Yes, although that now puts us ahead of you in Delaware.

Yes it does, dammit!!!! I wanna live in a state that is fair and equal, too.

[Baltimatt]

songfourone--

What do you think the prospects are for SSM in Delaware?

[Baltimatt]

Google is my friend.

Delaware could legalize marriage equality next year, according to Gov. Jack Markell.

Markell, a Democrat, supports legalizing same-sex marriage, and he has said in the past that he believes marriage equality is "inevitable" in his state. He previously predicted the Delaware legislature would take up the issue "probably within the next few years."

But in an interview at The Huffington Post's offices on Monday [6 August 2012], Markell said he expected the legislature to work on it as soon as the next session.

[durango46]

One man and one woman being married for life is not normal.

Why do they keep advocating for that? Why do they want to pretend it is normal when it is not?

Is this a joke ?

[Haberdasher]

Is this a joke ?

It is not a joke at all.

Do you think it is the norm?

[Smokey 1]

Your plan backfired. If you're actively wondering what they want next, then you do care. And posting more than three times as much as bmoreteacher on this thead trying to convince people that you do not isn't convincing anyone, even yourself.

Nope don't care and I don't have to convince you of anything. Take it or leave it.

[durango46]

It is not a joke at all.

Do you think it is the norm?

If you don't think it's the norm, I won't bother wasting either of one of our times.
I guess you're telling me same sex is the norm

[Baltimatt]

durango--

Where did Haberdasher say same-sex was the norm? He didn't. Maybe you should pay attention to what he actually said.

[regularguy]

If you don't think it's the norm, I won't bother wasting either of one of our times.
I guess you're telling me same sex is the norm

Heterosexual divorce is now the norm (or perhaps co-norm), since 50% of heterosexual marriages end in divorce. A large number of heterosexual couples remain unmarried, in what used to be called "common law marriage". Heterosexuals who marry and stay married for life are "not normal".

[Smokey 1]

Heterosexual divorce is now the norm (or perhaps co-norm), since 50% of heterosexual marriages end in divorce. A large number of heterosexual couples remain unmarried, in what used to be called "common law marriage". Heterosexuals who marry and stay married for life are "not normal".

According to the dictionary they are normal. What are you trying to do now, change the meaning of words to suit your agenda? That sounds like something from Orwell.

World English Dictionary
normal (ˈnɔːm ə l)

— adj
1. usual; regular; common; typical: the normal way of doing it ; the normal level
2. constituting a standard: if we take this as normal
3. psychol
a. being within certain limits of intelligence, educational success or ability, etc
b. conforming to the conventions of one's group 4. biology, med (of laboratory animals) maintained in a natural state for purposes of comparison with animals treated with drugs, etc
5. chem N (of a solution) containing a number of grams equal to the equivalent weight of the solute in each litre of solvent
6. chem denoting a straight-chain hydrocarbon: a normal alkane . Prefix: n-, e.g. n- octane
7. geometry another word for perpendicular

— n
8. the usual, average, or typical state, degree, form, etc
9. anything that is normal
10. geometry a line or plane perpendicular to another line or plane or to the tangent of a curved line or plane at the point of contact

[C16: from Latin normālis conforming to the carpenter's square, from norma norm ]

[bmore_ken]

If you don't think it's the norm, I won't bother wasting either of one of our times.
I guess you're telling me same sex is the norm

How many hetero married couples stay together for life?

[bmore_ken]

According to the dictionary they are normal. What are you trying to do now, change the meaning of words to suit your agenda? That sounds like something from Orwell.

How many hetero married couples stay married for life?

[songfourone]

Google is my friend.

Yes!!!! Gonna be some celebrating at the Purple Parrot