Wedding bells for same-sex couples; bye-bye domestic partnerships

[songfourone]

One man and one woman being married for life is not normal.

Why do they keep advocating for that? Why do they want to pretend it is normal when it is not?

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/.../why-men-cheat


The distribution of oxytocin and arginine vasopressin receptors in the human brain reveals that we are a monogamous species. But is that socially monogamous or sexually monogamous? The large size of the male testicles and shape of the penis suggest that we evolved when females would have multiple sexual partners and it was a "let the best sperm win" all-out competition. We have socially monogamous brains but sexually promiscuous genitals.

Adding testosterone to the mix is like having a wild card in poker--anything can happen. Testosterone is in conflict with the bonding effects of oxytocin (literally--testosterone inhibits the uptake of oxytocin by its receptor). It motivates men and women, but mostly men who have five to ten times more testosterone than the fairer sex, to seek more sexual partners (and to be single-minded and to take more risks). Testosterone levels also respond to our social environment. Win a chess match, your testosterone goes up. Earn a million dollar bonus at your hedge fund, your testosterone goes up. Win the Master's tournament, your testosterone soars.

[Smokey 1]

How many hetero married couples stay married for life?

I don't know but I didn't see that a majority was required in the defiinition of normal.

[bmore_ken]

I don't know but I didn't see that a majority was required in the defiinition of normal.

If it's not the majority , how can it be the norm?

[Smokey 1]

If it's not the majority , how can it be the norm?

Read the definition.

[bmore_ken]

Read the definition.

read it

1. usual; regular; common; typical: the normal way of doing it ; the normal level

So with hetero marriage it's common and typical for them to get married and divorced, not so common or typical to stay married for life. Glad we cleared that up with your definition

[Smokey 1]

read it



So with hetero marriage it's common and typical for them to get married and divorced, not so common or typical to stay married for life. Glad we cleared that up with your definition

You can interpret in any way you want. How does gay marriage fit into your definition of normal then?

[bmore_ken]

You can interpret in any way you want. How does gay marriage fit into your definition of normal then?

Two people in love who want to share their life together and possibly raise a family. What's more normal than that?

[Smokey 1]

Two people in love who want to share their life together and possibly raise a family. What's more normal than that?

Then that would contradict your previous post saying that heterosexual marriage for life is not normal.

Newspeak?

[bmore_ken]

Then that would contradict your previous post saying that heterosexual marriage for life is not normal.

Newspeak?

There's nothing contradictory at all. I said it's not normal for heteros to be married for life, where did I say in my answer to your question that it's normal for anyone to be married for life. I think you need to reread my post

[Smokey 1]

There's nothing contradictory at all. I said it's not normal for heteros to be married for life, where did I say in my answer to your question that it's normal for anyone to be married for life. I think you need to reread my post

Where did you see that I said you said that it is normal for anyone to be married for life?

[bmore_ken]

Where did you see that I said you said that it is normal for anyone to be married for life?

You said my post was contradictory, you haven't shown how. The numbers show that it's not normal for heteros to be married for life

[Smokey 1]

You said my post was contradictory, you haven't shown how. The numbers show that it's not normal for heteros to be married for life

The defintion of normal does not require it to be a majority and if it did then gay marriage or even being gay wouldn't be normal for that matter. You can't have it both ways.

[bmore_ken]

We can agree to disagree. feel free to have the last word

[Smokey 1]

We can agree to disagree. feel free to have the last word

I accept your surrender.

[regularguy]

The defintion of normal does not require it to be a majority and if it did then gay marriage or even being gay wouldn't be normal for that matter. You can't have it both ways.

Bottom line: "Normal" is in the eye of the beholder, and many Americans - perhaps a majority - have now "normalized" homosexuality... just as they normalized left-handedness a few generations ago.

[bmore_ken]

Bottom line: "Normal" is in the eye of the beholder, and many Americans - perhaps a majority - have now "normalized" homosexuality... just as they normalized left-handedness a few generations ago.

And interracial relationships and reality tv

[Smokey 1]

Bottom line: "Normal" is in the eye of the beholder, and many Americans - perhaps a majority - have now "normalized" homosexuality... just as they normalized left-handedness a few generations ago.

Thats fine and you are right it is up to each individual what they believe is normal. Just don't be upset that not everyone will see what you want to believe as being normal as normal in their eyes.

[Oriole-Bob]

Thats fine and you are right it is up to each individual what they believe is normal. Just don't be upset that not everyone will see what you want to believe as being normal as normal in their eyes.

So if you agree that it is up to the individual to believe what is normal why are you so afraid of the media trying to "normalize" you as you have posted numerous times in this thread. Is your sexuality so fragile that you are afraid that watching 30 minutes of Glee will have you googling hardcore male on male pron?

[regularguy]

Thats fine and you are right it is up to each individual what they believe is normal. Just don't be upset that not everyone will see what you want to believe as being normal as normal in their eyes.

You expect me to be upset that not everyone agrees with me? That would be irrational and immature. But I am glad that a majority agrees with me.

[Smokey 1]

So if you agree that it is up to the individual to believe what is normal why are you so afraid of the media trying to "normalize" you as you have posted numerous times in this thread. Is your sexuality so fragile that you are afraid that watching 30 minutes of Glee will have you googling hardcore male on male pron?

No as someone who is inherently defiant my objection is to the coercive nature of this "normalization". It would be the same for any thing that is "forced" like that with me.