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    Quote Originally Posted by hst2 View Post
    What are the increasing numbers of people who cannot make ends meet to do? Eat "freedom"? Put their kids through college with "freedom"? Pay for their healthcare with "freedom"? Pay for their mortgages with "freedom"?
    You do a lot of crying, wailing, gnashing and tittering for your human pets. However, when it comes time to pay for the 'needs' of your pets... you are nowhere to be found (suddenly, it becomes someone else's 'responsibility' to pay for your spending priorities).

    Perhaps you can convince the Great Hypocrite, the Vulture Buttfat of Omaha, to move your human pets onto his plantation and pay for their 'needs' with own funds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Both parties are addicted to spending. They only have different spending priorities

    OTOH, "Starving the beast" has never worked. It's easy to cut taxes but difficult to cut spending...
    Doing hard work makes people stronger. The goofs in DC need to learn this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmDot View Post
    What spending would either of you cut?
    First thing to do would be look and see what is being spent and why. The first thing to do is really cap spending then start reviewing what the govt does to spend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hst2 View Post
    Put them all together and how much do we save?
    It doesn't matter if it only saves a dime. You have to start somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hst2 View Post
    When you look at the growing gap between the rich and poor, one can't help but wonder if capitalism hasn't run its course. What is to be done about the this? The GOP has no idea, except to protect government socialist programs that benefit older Americans who tend to vote for them. They seem to be for it. Why would anyone who isn't rich support them? What are the increasing numbers of people who cannot make ends meet to do? Eat "freedom"? Put their kids through college with "freedom"? Pay for their healthcare with "freedom"? Pay for their mortgages with "freedom"? Your side need to get a clue.
    Freedom beats being a slave to govt handouts any day. People like you just can't trust that most people can take care of themselves without the govt sticking its huge nose in everyone's business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ms maggie View Post
    How is the govt analogous to a business? What product does the govt sell? Who is their target market? What is the expected profit margin? Is there an R&D function? Sales? Marketing? Human Resources? Who are the major competitors?

    Such nonsense.
    You should stop working at Walmart and get a govt job. The govt has all of those things, including competition with itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunsetSue View Post
    First thing to do would be look and see what is being spent and why. The first thing to do is really cap spending then start reviewing what the govt does to spend.
    Thanks for answering but I'm really interested in any specifics Semi and Mom49 would offer.
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    I offered an example of what could be cut. Additionally, I think entitlement programs need to be cut.
    My children are my legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    Additionally, I think entitlement programs need to be cut.
    All of them? Some of them? By how much? What about entitlement programs for multi-million/billion dollar companies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    I offered an example of what could be cut. Additionally, I think entitlement programs need to be cut.
    Entitlement programs? Which ones? Should we start with the VA and government employee (aka military) programs?

    I know you can do it. You can put in your two cents with at least an iota of detail.

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    I think the government should get out of the business of being a charitable organization. Let the churches and other organizations do the job. They do it better.
    My children are my legacy.

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    That's just vague pablum. Go back and try to answer one of his questions, the VA one is most salient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    I think the government should get out of the business of being a charitable organization. Let the churches and other organizations do the job. They do it better.
    Better yet, let the multi-million/billion dollar corporations people work for pay them enough to support their familiies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    I think the government should get out of the business of being a charitable organization. Let the churches and other organizations do the job. They do it better.

    What is "charity"?

    Food stamps?

    Medicare?

    Social Security?

    Agricultural subsidies?

    Could you get specific?

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    We do let churches and such do the job, they just can't manage it.

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    Charitable organizations can't give away what isn't given to them to start with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmDot View Post
    Charitable organizations can't give away what isn't given to them to start with.
    After the employee's are done stealing what they can there usually isn't much left. Worcester Co. has "board members" sitting sitting since the 1970's in some of their cliques errrrrr charitable organizations.

    They do get most upset when one says "illegal alien" they much prefer "undocumented".

    They also hate outside audits.

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