Why Does the GOP Want to Bring SS into the Fiscal Cliff Convo?

[Far from home]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theova...cliff/1740641/

How does this have anything to do with taxes?
The current system has social security in a separate bundle - and it doesn't affect the deficit.

This fiscal cliff is about getting back the billions of dollars that have been wasted on programs, such as the superiority fighters that aren't superior, and the numerous other back door projects that have wasted American taxpayer dollars to help the few get richer.

Social Security is another issue to discuss next year, after this is sorted.

[SunsetSue]

The govt has an IOU to SS. If SS isn't fixed, the govt will have to foot an even larger bill for SS since they stole the SS money in the first place.

[dsummoner]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theova...cliff/1740641/

How does this have anything to do with taxes?
The current system has social security in a separate bundle - and it doesn't affect the deficit.

This fiscal cliff is about getting back the billions of dollars that have been wasted on programs, such as the superiority fighters that aren't superior, and the numerous other back door projects that have wasted American taxpayer dollars to help the few get richer.

Social Security is another issue to discuss next year, after this is sorted.

Mandatory spending (entitlements + debt payments) exceed the looting of revenueing conducted by the Federal regime. One could cut discretionary spending to 0 and the Federal regime would still be running a deficit (on top of the $16 trillion + debt).

Anybody beLIEving that the Obama regime's and socialists' 'discuss cuts in entitlement spending next year' actually holds any water need to check their sieve.

[dsummoner]

Lest anyone forget about the lies of government when it comes to the Socialist Security legalized Ponzi scheme.

The taxes called for in this law will be paid both by your employer and by you. For the next 3 years you will pay maybe 15 cents a week, maybe 25 cents a week, maybe 30 cents or more, according to what you earn. That is to say, during the next 3 years, beginning January 1, 1937, you will pay 1 cent for every dollar you earn, and at the same time your employer will pay 1 cent for every dollar you earn, up to $3,000 a year. Twenty-six million other workers and their employers will be paying at the same time.

After the first 3 year--that is to say, beginning in 1940--you will pay, and your employer will pay, 1.5 cents for each dollar you earn, up to $3,000 a year. This will be the tax for 3 years, and then, beginning in 1943, you will pay 2 cents, and so will your employer, for every dollar you earn for the next 3 years. After that, you and your employer will each pay half a cent more for 3 years, and finally, beginning in 1949, twelve years from now, you and your employer will each pay 3 cents on each dollar you earn, up to $3,000 a year. That is the most you will ever pay.

Raising the caps on income subject to this rapacious socialist looting? Hell no.

[Joy in Mudville]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theova...cliff/1740641/

How does this have anything to do with taxes?
The current system has social security in a separate bundle - and it doesn't affect the deficit.

This fiscal cliff is about getting back the billions of dollars that have been wasted on programs, such as the superiority fighters that aren't superior, and the numerous other back door projects that have wasted American taxpayer dollars to help the few get richer.

Social Security is another issue to discuss next year, after this is sorted.

Even though social security has been taking in more than it has been paying out until 09 - because of the recession - and has actually led to smaller deficits in the recent past because the government raids the surplus for items ostensibly funded by the general revenue, Republicans want it on the table because they are determined to eviscerate anything resembling a social safety net in this country. It's never been about deficits or debt. It has always been about an ideological view of government. All you have to do is read a Dsummoner post and you'll get where they are coming from.

[Calamari]

To the GOP, SS is just money that could be given directly to rich donors and themselves, so they despise it.

[dsummoner]

Government can dramatically cut its debt by inducing a 100% haircut on US debt held by the private Federal Reserve and US debt held by 'intragovernmental' holdings - inclusive of the debt held through the legalized Ponzi Socialist Security crackwhore creation net 'Trust fund.'

[Wizard777]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theova...cliff/1740641/

How does this have anything to do with taxes?
The current system has social security in a separate bundle - and it doesn't affect the deficit.

This fiscal cliff is about getting back the billions of dollars that have been wasted on programs, such as the superiority fighters that aren't superior, and the numerous other back door projects that have wasted American taxpayer dollars to help the few get richer.

Social Security is another issue to discuss next year, after this is sorted.

This is yet another GOP contrived crisis they will use as a guise to rob the US Treasury. The first was Iraq in which they used the fraudulent claims of WMD's to rob the US Treasury of about 1 Trillion Dollars. They got away with that and now they want to go for greatest robbery in the history of the world. They want to Privatize Social Security. They want to give that 7 trillion dollars to wall street. The most immediate benefit would broker commissions. Even at 1% the investment of that 7 Trillion would generate 70 billion just in commisions. Then of course comes retirement day. Which do you want first the good news or the bad news? Okay the bad news is that your retirement fund invested in a hedgefund and is bankrupt. The good news is that CEO and upper management of your retirement fund are multibillionaires now. The GOP will push us over the fiscal cliff or do what ever else it takes to wrest the Social Security fund away from the government.

[dsummoner]

If Socialist Security had merit then coercion would be unnecessary. There is a reason why, however, the pro-rape lobby wishes to keep their program mandatory.