Defense stinks, Joe had a bad day and drop passes.....

[confused fan]

Dear Joe Flacco,

As you know, your stock is significantly dropping. To be a consistently good quarterback you may want to consider to…..

*Give Ray Rice/Pierce the ball more, no matter what your OC says.

*Get the clock in your head upgraded. It should be set differently against the Steelers, Texans, teams with very good pass rushers. You face the Giants soon.

*Have a conversation with one receiver in your huddle, regarding breaking their route and provide a safety net for you when you have pressure. Since you aspire to be elite, Brady and Manning has this.

*Its okay to run when nobody is open, just like the KC game. It softens up the defense.

*Practice more with T. Smith on the deep ball, you two are not on the same page with the deep ball.

Or you can keep doing it the way you have been. Carry on………

[44Defense]

I really thought the Ravens would show they r a great team and run away with this game but they r what they r. A team that is fortunate to be 9-3. I expect them to lose 3 of the next 4 and finish 10-6 and win the division and play the steelers in the first round and lose. The steelers are a better team period!!!! their coaching is better, offense is better, and their defensive scheme is the best ive ever seen. IMO

[ConcernedMDResident]

The only message Bisciotti is going to notice is a financial one. How many Ravens fans do you believe have the courage to boycott the team?

[NCBirdfan]

There were adjustments made at intermission. That's all I need to say.

[44Defense]

Do u guys remember Dave Kreig that is who he is.

[durango46]

amazing they merged all these threads into one


WHY?

maybe I should keep my 10 bucks a month

BS

and I didn't start this topic

[rick and roll]

One challenge doesn't cost you a game. If you want to pin it one person, blame Ed Reed, who once again let his teammates out to dry by not covering receivers because he was looking into the backfield (he let up a third down and long on a TD drive) and not tackling. No excuse.

[OriginalColtsFan]

One challenge doesn't cost you a game. If you want to pin it one person, blame Ed Reed, who once again let his teammates out to dry by not covering receivers because he was looking into the backfield (he let up a third down and long on a TD drive) and not tackling. No excuse.

Aw heck...there's PLENTY of blame to go around. That's pretty much the whole thrust of the thread.

[Omaha Beach]

If they cannot beat Methusaleh Batch how in holy hell are they going to beat RG3 and the Manning brothers? Think it is going to be a very unmerry Christmas in BMore.

[Kawalimus]

ravens are as good as they will ever be with flacco at QB. he is average at best. will never win the super bowl.

This might be the worst overall team we've had since Harbaugh's been the coach though. And also a big reason for the struggles this year is the defensive decline. At least the offense today was up against a unit that's one of the best in football. The defense OTOH was up against garbage and still got beat. In any of the previous Harbaugh years, we likely win that game with 20 points scored.

This isn't to try to excuse the offense's flaws as they do exist and I've harped on them all year, just you have to look at how far the defense is fallen before pinning it all on Flacco, who again I completely agree isn't an amazing QB.

[Jim/York]

Flacco has no pocket awareness therefore he holds onto the ball too long which invites stripped sacks. Yes they lost because the defense could not stop old man Charlie, stupid mistakes, poor play calling, over thrown passes, poor tackling, poor pass covering, poor clock management, lack of wanting, let's see anything else? Overall it looked like they thought that all they had to do was throw their shoes out on to the field and that they would win. Gee, I think that I have heard these comments before even when they win. When was the last time they played a complete game from start to finish? I hate to say this but this game may have cost them their season

[Ravens2006]

That might have been Joe's worst home game that I can ever remember. There might be statistically less impressive games, but from start to finish, it was unimpressive all around I think. Two bad turnovers at midfield / inside their own territory led to 10 points. The INT was just a terrible throw. The fumble should have never happened, either get rid of the ball, run, or hold on. If that drive takes 4 minutes off the clock and ends in FG, they win easily. You don't give the Steelers the ball to start drives inside your own territory, and they don't win. Their defense is good enough to keep any game close. Bad turnovers in bad spots were what tipped the scales. He was playing with fire there. The deep balls were pretty much ALL under-thrown... except for the TD to Boldin. Ugh.

And the decision to challenge that incomplete pass was terrible. I don't know what the deal is with their replay decision process, but it was OBVIOUS on the in-stadium replay on the big giant enormous board... the simple movement of Batch's hand pushing the ball forward meant that NO CREW IN THE LEAGUE was going to overturn that call. It wasn't loose, he clearly pushed it forward with his hand with control. At BEST it was grounding (and probably not) but that isn't getting called via replay. Horrible choice to challenge that call and throw away a timeout. Somebody needs to take the challenge process out of Harbaugh's hands altogether in my opinion.

[Saticon3]

Disagree with most of that.


Then there's Flacco holding on waay too long to the ball and getting stripped.

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I think that is a huge key, right there. As to how maybe he just still doesn't have "it".
Game situation there, he's gotta know--got control of the game, momentum just shifted Ravens way, had the Steelers ready to be put away- a few first downs, maybe a field goal-- that was the time to sieze it-- just can't afford a negative play there, let alone a turnover-- he has to know he can't hold the ball that long, got to throw it away or take off, buy time or get what he can on his own- and live to play another down, avoid the turnover and even if no first down, punt, maintain field position.

[West Chester Raven]

IMO, Flacco and Spam...I mean Cam need to get a divorce

I want to see Flacco with the different OC...only then will we know if he has what it takes

Too late for that. May get the franchise tag and a new OC. If they see the same stuff than it is adios Joe.

[West Chester Raven]

The only message Bisciotti is going to notice is a financial one. How many Ravens fans do you believe have the courage to boycott the team?

Fans don't boycott their team. What is wrong with you? Fans who do that kind of stuff find themselves without a team. We have a fine organization - don't be an ungrateful ingrate. We are all disappointed from yesterday. It is hard to take.
You act like some sort of child though with those type of comments. Steve is a fantastic owner who loves this city. He is a self made man and one of our own.

[CajunRaven]

IMO, Flacco and Spam...I mean Cam need to get a divorce

I want to see Flacco with the different OC...only then will we know if he has what it takes

Agree here, before we toss Joe aside, let's see him with a different OC.

[DJGreg1200]

I don't post on this particular board often but I have said on here in the past that the problem with the Ravens offense has more to do with Cam Cameron than it has to do with Joe Flacco. The Ravens ran ONE RUNNING PLAY the entire 4th quarter.....ONE!!! That's inexcusable!!!

How does Ray Rice go an entire quarter and never touch the football? Ray Rice last touched the football with 1:52 left in the 3rd quarter.....a 10 yd run. But our stubborn OC continually put Joe in bad situations when he didn't need to. He wasn't in a rhythm, receivers were dropping balls, so why continue to throw? Cam made the team one dimensional with his play calling.


Where were the screen passes? The one time we did run a draw, Ray Rice ran 34 yards for a TD. Everyone knows you run screens and draws to slow down the pass rush. Not our OC though. Its frustrating!!

[baltiMOREO&R]

What exactly is John doing on the sideline anyway? I am never quite sure.

John is standing there with that befuddled look saying to himself, 'I can't believe Steve hired a special teams coach to be the head coach... and pays me $million$ to be one. I sure hope my coordinators know what they are doing and get us a win, so I can face the cameras and feel like I/we are good and I won't lose this gravy train $2-3M/year job.'