Then again, as the article points out:
There is no reason for Obama to listen.Once you vow unconditional, permanent loyalty to a politician and a party - once you demonstrate that you will support them no matter what they do - why would you possibly expect that they will do anything but ignore you? A rational politician, by definition, pays attention to those whose support is conditional and uncertain, not to those who loudly proclaim that it is a solemn duty to support that politician and his party under all circumstances. That's just the basic rules governing how power works, of negotiations and politics: those who eagerly renounce all their leverage make themselves inconsequential and impotent.
sourcePresident Barack Obamaís aides said they would recommend he veto a $631.4 billion defense authorization measure now before the Senate unless itís changed.
Among provisions cited as unacceptable in a statement today from the White House is the billís limit on using funds to transfer detainees from the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to other countries.
This from the guy who ran on a promise to close the place. All the teeth gnashing of his apologists won't matter a bit.
"Progressives" aren't the only ones bowing to "big gommint".
The so-called conservative Republicans demand the gommint do all sorts of expensive and intrusive things.
"Gommint" is where we turn for redress against those bigger, be they neighbors, corporations or nations. Most Americans, left or right or otherwise, have an innate sense of self-respect and entitlement.
Pretending the tendency exists only on one side is sophomoric at best.
The GOP likes to pretend to be about limited government. Much like they pretend to be about fiscal responsibility. Their track record puts the lie to that.
One thing I don't agree with is this:
It is not rational to chose between the lesser of two evils. You still end up with evil. That is a false choice that is far too common in picking between the GOP and DNC. I won't hold my nose and do it anymore. Those that do make such a false choice deserve nothing but scorn.Why would anyone believe that posture will affect anything? Once the choice is made to lock oneself into a state of permanent, unbreakable partisan loyalty, based on the lesser-evil justification, then one renders oneself completely powerless.
I'm not arguing here against that choice. Whatever one thinks of the lesser-of-two-evils rationale, it's at least cogent and rational. The debate over that choice has already been hashed out and there's no point in repeating it here. But whatever one thinks of it, there are costs and benefits to that choice, and one should be honest about both.
Why do people turn to gommint?
Unknowable. What's important is the REALITY that they do. In great numbers... with no discrimination.... rich, poor, gay, straight, left, right, ignorant, genius.
Therefore, we must demand gommint work, and work well.
This goal is often stymied by misguided rightists, giving homage to the ol' "drown it in a bathtube" meme.
Why we listen to such immature eliminationist crap is beyond me.
We ALL should demand, vote and fund for efficient and meaningful gommint and not be timid about eliminating programs that have outlived their usefulness.
No. The 'left' is just as easily duped or they're just being faction oriented power whores. The latter making them no better than the GOP. The result being that the choice between them is a false one.
I don't know. Sleep on it, figure it out.Originally Posted by SemiAuto
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