'merica's Syrian Qaida legends of heroism

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New footage posted on the Internet appears to have been filmed by a Syrian rebel who points the camera along the barrel of his gun as he shoots 10 unarmed prisoners.

The cameraman then points the camera along the barrel of his Kalashnikov assault rifle as he shoots the men. "God is great. Jabhat al-Nusra," he says, referring to the secretive al-Nusra Front, an Islamist rebel unit linked to al Qaeda that has claimed responsibility for several suicide bomb attacks around the country.

The incompetence of American foreign policy knows no so-called partisan bounds. Both the Obama regime and 'Bottom of the Class' McCain have given the double down on the stupidity of meddling in Syria.

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Just in case the 'Must Defend' Myrmidon Brigades have their blastocyst talking points memos in hand, consider this the coathanger.

Nearly a year later, however, Jabhat al Nusra, which U.S. officials believe has links to al Qaida, has become essential to the frontline operations of the rebels fighting to topple Assad. Not only does the group still conduct suicide bombings that have killed hundreds, but they’ve proved to be critical to the rebels’ military advance. In battle after battle across the country, Nusra and similar groups do the heaviest frontline fighting. Groups who call themselves the Free Syrian Army and report to military councils led by defected Syrian army officers move into the captured territory afterward.

Among Nusra fighters are many Syrians who say they fought with al Qaida in Iraq, which waged a bloody and violent campaign against the U.S. presence in that country and is still blamed for suicide and car bombings that have killed hundreds of Iraqis since the U.S. troops left a year ago.

So for 'on its heels and stuffs' There is no amount of openly brazen stupidity that the foreign policy of 'merica won't repeat over and over and over and...

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The incompetence of American foreign policy knows no so-called partisan bounds. Both the Obama regime and 'Bottom of the Class' McCain have given the double down on the stupidity of meddling in Syria.

If we leave Syria alone, do you think they'll leave Lebanon alone? I'm not concerned about the Lebanese government of course, just the people.

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If we leave Syria alone, do you think they'll leave Lebanon alone? I'm not concerned about the Lebanese government of course, just the people.

The Lebanese government, for all practical purposes, is Hizb'Allah and probably won't be in the immediate cross hairs (although Iran's support for al Assad v. Iranian support for the Sunni Hamas does make things a bit complicated; furthermore if the al Nusra front is, in fact, dominated by former ISI - Islamic State of Iraq - members then one will need some additional information to see if they have learned from the mistakes of al Zarqawi).

Once the Sunnis have overthrown the Alawite government and have put the Alawites to the sword, then it will be a period of internal conflict as the actual followers of actual Islam disempower the 'moderates.' Should this continue to its natural terminus, it will be Israelis that will be the next target as it is one of the most important of 'Muslim Lands' when it comes to 'liberation.'

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The Lebanese government, for all practical purposes, is Hizb'Allah and probably won't be in the immediate cross hairs (although Iran's support for al Assad v. Iranian support for the Sunni Hamas does make things a bit complicated; furthermore if the al Nusra front is, in fact, dominated by former ISI - Islamic State of Iraq - members then one will need some additional information to see if they have learned from the mistakes of al Zarqawi).

Once the Sunnis have overthrown the Alawite government and have put the Alawites to the sword, then it will be a period of internal conflict as the actual followers of actual Islam disempower the 'moderates.' Should this continue to its natural terminus, it will be Israelis that will be the next target as it is one of the most important of 'Muslim Lands' when it comes to 'liberation.'

It always comes back to Israel.

Israel is the millstone around our necks.

Unless you're willing to give Israel up, imo a defensible position, then expect more of the same re: our ME policy. Since it's politically untenable to suggest such a thing in this country, don't expect anything to change.

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It always comes back to Israel.

Israel is the millstone around our necks.

Unless you're willing to give Israel up, imo a defensible position, then expect more of the same re: our ME policy. Since it's politically untenable to suggest such a thing in this country, don't expect anything to change.

It goes beyond American foreign policy regarding Israel. As the 'defender of the free world' (or similar pablum based rubbish; the actuality being a schizophrenic mix of economic interests and confounding meddling) the US likes to dip its wick in everybody else's business. I have no expectation that US foreign policy will change until it is forced, by external actors, to change.

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It goes beyond American foreign policy regarding Israel. As the 'defender of the free world' (or similar pablum based rubbish; the actuality being a schizophrenic mix of economic interests and confounding meddling) the US likes to dip its wick in everybody else's business. I have no expectation that US foreign policy will change until it is forced, by external actors, to change.

Sadly, I share those expectations.

However, there is nothing stopping a political movement from changing American policies, besides perhaps apathy, and the left-right spectrum we seem incapable of escaping.

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Sadly, I share those expectations.

However, there is nothing stopping a political movement from changing American policies, besides perhaps apathy, and the left-right spectrum we seem incapable of escaping.

Apathy, ignorance (of the can't find places on the map variety) and a decoupling between the citizenry and foreign policy (except when it hits home) are part and parcel of the problem. I find little difference in regards to the so-called left and so-called right (especially on foreign policy).

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Apathy, ignorance (of the can't find places on the map variety) and a decoupling between the citizenry and foreign policy (except when it hits home) are part and parcel of the problem. I find little difference in regards to the so-called left and so-called right (especially on foreign policy).

The bolded is true. The biggest difference I see is competence and realism but they're goals are largely the same.

I think the draft should be reinstated w NO exceptions for college, family, etc. People start becoming a bit more judicious regarding the use of force in foreign lands if they actually had some skin in the game.

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The bolded is true. The biggest difference I see is competence and realism but they're goals are largely the same.

I see little of either from either so-called side. Both completely lack any concept of strategic vision. Each is willing to openly repeat the mistakes of the other. Finally, both are schizophrenic given the schizophrenic nature of US foreign policy objectives.

I think the draft should be reinstated w NO exceptions for college, family, etc. People start becoming a bit more judicious regarding the use of force in foreign lands if they actually had some skin in the game.

I would posit that in the past (until government lost the ability to almost fully control the flow of information) the draft provided an actual shared experience that helped to forge national identity (as fallacious as I find such things to be). Now, however, things have changed. The modern armed forces (until they start shooting themselves in the foot with their counterinsurgency strategy) are much less dependent on a vast amount of raw manpower and more dependent on a smaller number of individuals with highly specialized skill sets. Also, with the current free flow of information that the government doesn't control, the concept of national identity has fractured and the common experience no longer holds.