73% of all Jobs Created in Last Five Months were Government Jobs

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Why are you using numbers from 2010 and Dec 2012, when the numbers I am using (fromt he BLS website) are for the SPECIFIC 5 MONTH PERIOD I REFERENCED IN THE THREAD TITLE?

The numbers are 100% correct, as posted by the BLS.

The US workforce gained 847,000 jobs in the last 5 months. Look it up. THIS IS THE DATA USED BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO DERIVE THEIR "7.7%" UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS.

The government workforce gained 621,000 jobs in the last 5 months. Look it up. It's right there in the tables - number in Nov minus the number in June gives the increase.

Therefore, of the 847,000 newly created jobs, 621,000 of them (73%) were government jobs.

Spin it all you want, the data is there, the data doesn't lie, and it's the official US Govt BLS data.

I'm done, I've proved that even in the face of true real black-and-white statistical data, the leftists will do whatever they can to disprove anything that might make King Baracka look bad.

Fini.

You're right numbers don't lie... YOU DO! Either that or you're too stupid to comprehend what you're reading... or both. Either way I'm sure no one here will lose any sleep over you taking your ball and going home.

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[The Eternal White Belt]

Hey, I'm not going to call you a liar, but I think your numbers are off. If you look at this table of employment change by industry from the report you liked, it paints a different picture.

Now, I will give you that it's missing 2 months of jobs info, but you will see that where it states the number of jobs for government workers:

September: 10,000 jobs gained
October: 51,000 jobs lost
November: 1,000 jobs lost
Total: 42,000 government jobs lost.

So, looking at these numbers, it leads me to one of the following conclusions:

A) In the 2 months preceding the 3 months detailed above (where the largest variance was 51,000) there was a gain of appox. 660,000 jobs or 330,000 in each month (averaged).

B) Your numbers were likely wrong, and the change in jobs prior to the past 3 months were somewhere in the 10's of thousands in one direction or the other (we can always go dig up the last 2 jobs reports to find out if we care that much - I don't, so I will leave that to you).

C) The table I am looking at isn't the data I'm looking for.

Sorry, but I'm going with option B.

OK, so I just found the old job reports and can revise my findings:

July: 18,000 jobs gained
August: 58,000 jobs gained
September: 10,000 jobs gained
October: 51,000 jobs lost
November: 1,000 jobs lost


Total: 34,000 government jobs gained.

I am not a left-winger in the least. Will you address this discrepancy?

[soulflower]

OK, so I just found the old job reports and can revise my findings:

July: 18,000 jobs gained
August: 58,000 jobs gained
September: 10,000 jobs gained
October: 51,000 jobs lost
November: 1,000 jobs lost


Total: 34,000 government jobs gained.

I am not a left-winger in the least. Will you address this discrepancy?

I stated several times on this thread that the government hasn't added more than 60,000 jobs in a single month this year. He refused to accept that fact and others that that I posted...

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I'm done, I've proved that even in the face of true real black-and-white statistical data, the leftists will do whatever they can to disprove anything that might make King Baracka look bad.

Fini.

Before you “fini”, I wonder if you could go beyond the simple math you keep presenting, and indulge us in some critical thinking.

Using the exact methodology you have shown us, all of the following statements are “true”, including the one you keep citing:

• 11% of all jobs created in the last three months were government jobs
• 52% of all jobs created in the last four months were government jobs
• 73% of all jobs created in the last five months were government jobs
• 51% of all jobs created in the last six months were government jobs
• 47% of all jobs created in the last seven months were government jobs
• 18% of all jobs created in the past eight months were government jobs

Does it not seem odd to you that the figures could bounce around so much, month-to-month?

Does it bother you that the remaining 2012 month-to-month comparisons are completely nonsensical, since they result in “negative” percentages (because government jobs declined while overall jobs increased)?

Don't these results (including the negative ones) make you wonder whether this is the right way to analyze the BLS data?

For extra credit, if you do still think this is the right way, please explain to us why Breitbart et al., among all of these monthly comparisons, decided to present the five-month one?

[AtticusII]

I'm done, I've proved that even in the face of true real black-and-white statistical data, the leftists will do whatever they can to disprove anything that might make King Baracka look bad.

Well, you've proved to me that the guy who posted this drivel on Breitbart should stick to writing movies, or at least take a economics and/or statistics course before trying his hand at this again.

[soulflower]

Molly's Middle America on people who lie with statistics:

The CNS piece is comparing numbers taken from June and comparing them to numbers taken in November. Now numbers from both the Household and the Establishment Survey are seasonally adjusted, meaning adjusted for variations that happen regularly at various times of the year.

However, the reality is that the number of people who say they are working for the government on the Household Survey goes down during the summer (think teachers), even with the seasonal adjustments, which sometimes can be a bit off. You can see the summer drop in the graph below. In "real" unadjusted jobs numbers, the number of employees in the state "Government: State and Local Education" sectors go down about 2,000,000 each summer.

They reach their nadir in July and start coming back in August. So... unless those seasonal adjustments are really perfect, comparing government numbers in summer with those in the fall is going to be really, really, REALLY deceptive. And the Household numbers seasonal adjustments are often not that perfect and they are much LESS perfect than the Establishment seasonal adjustments.

http://mollysmiddleamerica.blogspot....ull-of-it.html