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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    What percentage of the total jobs created were Government jobs?
    Less than ten percent.

    Show us one press release since June this year that shows the government has added more than 60,000 jobs in a single month. Give us something credible that proves you're not a liar or an idiot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    You can't continue to lie when the data is presented (spoon fed) to you.
    The only thing you're proving is that you don't know how to interpret the BLS statistics

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Less than ten percent.
    Wow. Baltimore city math education?

    Please explain how 621,000 divided by 847,000 is 10 percent.

    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower
    Show us one press release since June this year that shows the government has added more than 60,000 jobs in a single month.
    I just gave you the OFFICIAL DATA FROM THE BLS WEBSITE!

    Why do you continue to lie and ignore the data? You want us all to ignore the official United States Government Bureau of Labor & Statistics data, and instead rely on "Molly's Blog Spot" as a source?

    Are you even sober this morning?

    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower
    The only thing you're proving is that you don't know how to interpret the BLS statistics
    Another lie.

    Look at the data from the BLS site.

    Tell us all how many Government Jobs there were in June 2012. (I posted the data above, but you can go to the OFFICIAL US GOVT BUREAU OF LABOR & STATISTICS website to get it again if you wish.)

    The number is 19,938,000. Of this there can be no disagreement! The number is right there on their own website!!!!

    Now scroll across to "November 2012" and post the same data....you will see it is 20,559,000.

    Now tell us all, Einstein.....what do you get when you subtract 19,928,000 from 20,559,000?

    If you don't come up with "621,000" you are lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzoliberal View Post
    And THIS is the mentality of the typical TeaWagger, for whom all problems are simple and all solutions simpler.
    Folks like Jeebus have to keep things simple because that's all their narrow minds can handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Wow. Baltimore city math education?

    Please explain how 621,000 divided by 847,000 is 10 percent.
    The government has not added 621k jobs in the past four years let alone this year.

    That's a fact.

    I've looked at all your links and none of your links say what you want them to say.

    Therefore you are either lying or don't know how to interpret the statistics.

    How many jobs did the government add in September, October, and November? I've already posted the BLS link that give you the answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    The government has not added 621k jobs in the past four years let alone this year.

    That's a fact.

    I've looked at all your links and none of your links say what you want them to say.

    Therefore you are either lying or don't know how to interpret the statistics.

    How many jobs did the government add in September, October, and November? I've already posted the BLS link that give you the answer
    Sigh, again, for the umpteenth time.

    Look at the OFFICIAL BLS data. Do you need a step by step instruction?

    Start with June 2012 -

    What was the number of Govt jobs in June 2012? There is only one source and one answer.

    The OFFICIAL BLS website says "19,938,000."

    Why do you dispute that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by banner1124 View Post
    Folks like Jeebus have to keep things simple because that's all their narrow minds can handle.
    Another "genius" who cannot do simple 1st grade math.

    It's not hard, just subtract one number from the other.

    Even someone like yourself should be able to follow along.

    Then again.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Sigh, again, for the umpteenth time.

    Look at the OFFICIAL BLS data. Do you need a step by step instruction?

    Start with June 2012 -

    What was the number of Govt jobs in June 2012? There is only one source and one answer.

    The OFFICIAL BLS website says "19,938,000."

    Why do you dispute that?
    Check out page 3 of this PDF from the BLS -

    http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/ceshighlights.pdf

    The government is in the Red on job creation. As of last Friday, over 500,000 jobs lost from the public sector since 2010.

    You're either willfully ignorant or a liar.

    Get back to me when you figure out the difference between the terms "Gross" and "Net"
    Last edited by soulflower; 12-10-2012 at 09:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Another "genius" who cannot do simple 1st grade math.

    It's not hard, just subtract one number from the other.

    Even someone like yourself should be able to follow along.

    Then again.....
    Keep telling yourself that. There's something wrong with how you are interpreting the numbers because that 73% number flies in the face of reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banner1124 View Post
    Keep telling yourself that. There's something wrong with how you are interpreting the numbers because that 73% number flies in the face of reality.
    In other news, I got an email saying boycott the new dollar coins because 'In God We Trust' is missing.....


    It's not, of course..

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    Quote Originally Posted by reg_indy View Post
    In other news, I got an email saying boycott the new dollar coins because 'In God We Trust' is missing.....


    It's not, of course..
    I Google'd the "73%" claim and all are found were right-wing websites talking about this nonsense. Clearly, Jeebs is living in a different reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    I Google'd the "73%" claim and all are found were right-wing websites talking about this nonsense. Clearly, Jeebs is living in a different reality.
    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012...-set-of-facts/

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    I Google'd the "73%" claim and all are found were right-wing websites talking about this nonsense. Clearly, Jeebs is living in a different reality.
    The Jeebus types have been living in their own little bubble for so long that stepping out into the real world is probably frightening

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Check out page 3 of this PDF from the BLS -

    http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/ceshighlights.pdf

    The government is in the Red on job creation. As of last Friday, over 500,000 jobs lost from the public sector since 2010.

    You're either willfully ignorant or a liar.

    Get back to me when you figure out the difference between the terms "Gross" and "Net"
    Clearly you cannot read a table.

    Go to this page: http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab8.htm

    It's called TABLE A-8.

    The 7th line from the top = Government

    Click the 2nd box on that line - scroll down and click the "Retrieve data" button - you will get another table.

    It is labelled as follows:

    Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey

    Series Id: LNS12032188
    Seasonally Adjusted
    Series title: (Seas) Employment Level - Nonagriculture, Government Wage and Salary Workers
    Labor force status: Employed
    Type of data: Number in thousands
    Age: 16 years and over
    Class of worker: Government wage and salary workers
    Industry: Nonagriculture industries
    Go to the column labelled "June" then slide your eyes down to the row labelled "2012" and tell us all what the number in that box reads....

    If you post anything but 19938 you are a liar.

    Now slide over to the column labelled "Nov" and then go to the box under that column that is labelled as "2012" and tell us what the number in that box reads...

    If you post anything but "20559" you are a liar.

    Now, try to get this in that little liberal brain - if there are 20,559,000 Government jobs in November of 2012, and there were 19,938,000 of them in June of 2012 --

    How many more Govt jobs were there in Nov 2012 than there were in June 2012?

    If you post anything but "621,000" you are a liar.

    You cannot continue to post such foolishness when the actual factual United States Bureau of Labor & Statistics data is right in front of you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by banner1124 View Post
    The Jeebus types have been living in their own little bubble for so long that stepping out into the real world is probably frightening
    Another one who cannot do basic 1st grade math. Pity, but not unexpected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brohan View Post
    Yeah, those 16k IRS agents Obama hired are really going to help grow the economy and crank up GDP.
    Collecting back taxes will do that!

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    Jeebs -

    If the government has added 600,000 jobs since June, why does the BLS report(Dec. 2012) show that the government has lost 500,000 jobs since 2010?

    If your math is correct, wouldn't the government be in the Black by 100,000+ jobs by now?

    You claim to be basing your conclusions on the BLS data but the BLS disagrees with your finding. So what gives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    It does if you have mastered how to search a government website.

    http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab8.htm

    Follow along, it's very easy to understand.

    Step #1:

    • What was the total number of people employed in June 2012?
    • (Answer = 142,415,000)
    • How many were employed by the federal, state, and local governments?
    • (Answer = 19,938,000)


    Now for Step #2:

    • How many people (according to the BLS data) were employed in November 2012?
    • (Answer = 143,262,00. An increase of 847,000 jobsin that 6 month period).
    • In November 2012, how many people were employed by government?
    • (Answer = 20,559,000. An increase of 621,000 government jobs).


    Still with me? Good, as this is 1st grade math.

    • Now, what was the total number of new jobs during that period again?
    • (Answer - 847,000 total new jobs)
    • How many of these new jobs were government jobs?
    • (Answer = 621,000)


    Now, here's the tricky part: divide 621,000 by 847,000 to obtain what's known as a "percentage."

    If your calculator is working properly, you would obtain the following result:

    73% of these "new jobs created" in the last 5 months were government jobs.

    Now point out the "lies."

    Hey, I'm not going to call you a liar, but I think your numbers are off. If you look at this table of employment change by industry from the report you liked, it paints a different picture.

    Now, I will give you that it's missing 2 months of jobs info, but you will see that where it states the number of jobs for government workers:

    September: 10,000 jobs gained
    October: 51,000 jobs lost
    November: 1,000 jobs lost
    Total: 42,000 government jobs lost.

    So, looking at these numbers, it leads me to one of the following conclusions:

    A) In the 2 months preceding the 3 months detailed above (where the largest variance was 51,000) there was a gain of appox. 660,000 jobs or 330,000 in each month (averaged).

    B) Your numbers were likely wrong, and the change in jobs prior to the past 3 months were somewhere in the 10's of thousands in one direction or the other (we can always go dig up the last 2 jobs reports to find out if we care that much - I don't, so I will leave that to you).

    C) The table I am looking at isn't the data I'm looking for.

    Sorry, but I'm going with option B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Jeebs -

    If the government has added 600,000 jobs since June, why does the BLS report(Dec. 2012) show that the government has lost 500,000 jobs since 2010?

    If your math is correct, wouldn't the government be in the Black by 100,000+ jobs by now?

    You claim to be basing your conclusions on the BLS data but the BLS disagrees with your finding. So what gives?
    Why are you using numbers from 2010 and Dec 2012, when the numbers I am using (fromt he BLS website) are for the SPECIFIC 5 MONTH PERIOD I REFERENCED IN THE THREAD TITLE?

    The numbers are 100% correct, as posted by the BLS.

    The US workforce gained 847,000 jobs in the last 5 months. Look it up. THIS IS THE DATA USED BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO DERIVE THEIR "7.7%" UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS.

    The government workforce gained 621,000 jobs in the last 5 months. Look it up. It's right there in the tables - number in Nov minus the number in June gives the increase.

    Therefore, of the 847,000 newly created jobs, 621,000 of them (73%) were government jobs.

    Spin it all you want, the data is there, the data doesn't lie, and it's the official US Govt BLS data.

    I'm done, I've proved that even in the face of true real black-and-white statistical data, the leftists will do whatever they can to disprove anything that might make King Baracka look bad.

    Fini.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Why are you using numbers from 2010 and Dec 2012, when the numbers I am using (fromt he BLS website) are for the SPECIFIC 5 MONTH PERIOD I REFERENCED IN THE THREAD TITLE?
    Stats don't lie -

    http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/ceshighlights.pdf

    The BLS report shows that from Feb. 2010 to Nov. 2012(which includes the jobs added/lost since June), the Government has LOST 500,000 jobs. It also shows that the government lost 1,000 jobs in November and 51,000 jobs in October.

    If you're correct that the government as instead ADDED 600,000 jobs since June, that means either:

    - the BLS is lying in their November jobs report

    or

    - you're gullible for believing rumors posted on right-wing blogs



    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post

    I'm done, I've proved that even in the face of true real black-and-white statistical data, the leftists will do whatever they can to disprove anything that might make King Baracka look bad.

    Fini.
    Good! Take your ball of inaccurate information and go home

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    Jeebus; really, man. Light one up.

    You've literally nothing to lose.

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