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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    According to the latest intel, Syrian troops have already loaded the chemicals into the rockets. Are we really going to wait until one is fired killing hundreds of people if not more? If we're going to go we should go now in my opinion. We don't want our troops in the middle of a gas attack.
    What do you mean by "go now"? Invade? I am a little queasy abot airstrikes on weapons that are carrying deadly chemicals for the obvious reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    According to the latest intel, Syrian troops have already loaded the chemicals into the rockets. Are we really going to wait until one is fired killing hundreds of people if not more? If we're going to go we should go now in my opinion. We don't want our troops in the middle of a gas attack.
    Once the chemicals are mixed that severely limits our options for taking them out. If you bomb the facilities or artilery positions you will disperse the chemicals. Sarin is extremely deadly as a liquid or gas. What we really need to know is if they have used the one stage or two stage method of loading the chemicals into the warheads. If they have used the one stage method then the clock is ticking. Sarin has a shelf life. The one stage method may not be likely because that is the most dangerous method. One drop of sarin in it's liquid state anywhere on your skin is fatal. Also sending in ground forces could provoke use. When we invaded Iraq if Saddam would have had any WMD's he would have used them on the invading troops. There is no question about Assads possession of Sarin. The only question is if he will use it.

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    Meh, Syria has what that we want? More muslims we can do without..... let them do as they wish.

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    Chickenhawks drumming for more war.

    Great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzoliberal View Post
    Chickenhawks drumming for more war.

    Great!
    Drumming ~ but certainly not lining up to do the fighting. Next, they'll likely be claiming that all of Sadaam's WMDs were somehow moved to Syria without notice and there are entire squadrons of fighter jets buried under the sand there somewhere.

    Let's do what we can to keep the "Forever War" going and convince ourselves that we can somehow improve the cultural~based cesspool that is the Middle East and be loved and appreciated by all for our involvement before moving on to the next place that "needs" our help.

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    While the Continuing Criminal Enterprise , known as the United States Of America, prosecutes Americans who financially support "terrorist" organizations it is itself doing precisely that:

    Syrian Rebels Tied to Al Qaeda Play Key Role in War

    BAGHDAD — The lone Syrian rebel group with an explicit stamp of approval from Al Qaeda has become one of the uprising’s most effective fighting forces, posing a stark challenge to the United States and other countries that want to support the rebels but not Islamic extremists.

    Money flows to the group, the Nusra Front, from like-minded donors abroad. Its fighters, a small minority of the rebels, have the boldness and skill to storm fortified positions and lead other battalions to capture military bases and oil fields. As their successes mount, they gather more weapons and attract more fighters.

    The group is a direct offshoot of Al Qaeda in Iraq, Iraqi officials and former Iraqi insurgents say, which has contributed veteran fighters and weapons."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard777 View Post
    Once the chemicals are mixed that severely limits our options for taking them out. If you bomb the facilities or artilery positions you will disperse the chemicals. Sarin is extremely deadly as a liquid or gas. What we really need to know is if they have used the one stage or two stage method of loading the chemicals into the warheads. If they have used the one stage method then the clock is ticking. Sarin has a shelf life. The one stage method may not be likely because that is the most dangerous method. One drop of sarin in it's liquid state anywhere on your skin is fatal. Also sending in ground forces could provoke use. When we invaded Iraq if Saddam would have had any WMD's he would have used them on the invading troops. There is no question about Assads possession of Sarin. The only question is if he will use it.
    There are no "good" choices for anyone because Syria is thought to have upwards of 50 to 75 locations for its chemical weapons and/or stockpiles of chemicals and is thought to already be moving them to other locations. A joint diplomatic solution with Russian help would still seem the best solution. Unfortunately Russian interests in Syria and American interests in Syria are not synonymous which is not a good place to start.

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    There must be SOMEONE SOMEWHERE we can nuke to solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    According to the latest intel, Syrian troops have already loaded the chemicals into the rockets. Are we really going to wait until one is fired killing hundreds of people if not more? If we're going to go we should go now in my opinion. We don't want our troops in the middle of a gas attack.
    Granted we need intel, but last time we went for the same reasons look what we got (besides an oil-rich country).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    There are no "good" choices for anyone because Syria is thought to have upwards of 50 to 75 locations for its chemical weapons and/or stockpiles of chemicals and is thought to already be moving them to other locations. A joint diplomatic solution with Russian help would still seem the best solution. Unfortunately Russian interests in Syria and American interests in Syria are not synonymous which is not a good place to start.
    Who's interests are served when everyone in Syria is dead and Israel notices that more land on their boarder just became available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard777 View Post
    Who's interests are served when everyone in Syria is dead and Israel notices that more land on their boarder just became available?
    This is why I see any political/diplomatic solution to the situation in Syria being one primarily put together by Turkey, Russia and the neighboring countries with the exception of Israel who are trusted even less than the United States.

    We will definitely be in the background and be one of the driving forces but I expect Turkey to be the main support negotiator for the rebels and Russia for what will be left of the Assad regime and Syria's armed forces. The last thing we want is for Syria's armed forces to be disbanded like we were stupid enough to do in Iraq.

    Turkey's juggling act will be to convince the rebels that Russia should play a role and retain its warm water ports in Syria and Syria is going to need all the support it can get in the post Assad rebuilding of the country and Russia could certainly play a role in return for continued use of Syria's ports.

    How well that might play with the United States we will have to see, but if I was the rebels and had the best of two very bad choices to make I would probably jump in bed with the Russians, Turk's and neighboring countries rather than the United States and our one-sided support for Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyboy56 View Post
    Syria has the largest stockpile of chemical weapons with delivery capabilities. And we know Al Qaeda is in Syria. The bigger question is what will Russia do if we try to intervene to secure the weapons?
    What evidence is there that any such weapons would be deployed against the United States? It isn't our problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeIdiot View Post
    What evidence is there that any such weapons would be deployed against the United States? It isn't our problem.
    Nonsense.

    Everyone knows that Israhell is our 51st State.

    I propose that we use whatever monies are left in the social security "fund" to help the zionut state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzoliberal View Post
    Chickenhawks drumming for more war.

    Great!
    Why didn't Bobo ever serve and why did Crazy Uncle Joe have FIVE deferments? COWARDS and chickenhawks the two of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byng View Post
    This is why I see any political/diplomatic solution to the situation in Syria being one primarily put together by Turkey, Russia and the neighboring countries with the exception of Israel who are trusted even less than the United States.

    We will definitely be in the background and be one of the driving forces but I expect Turkey to be the main support negotiator for the rebels and Russia for what will be left of the Assad regime and Syria's armed forces. The last thing we want is for Syria's armed forces to be disbanded like we were stupid enough to do in Iraq.

    Turkey's juggling act will be to convince the rebels that Russia should play a role and retain its warm water ports in Syria and Syria is going to need all the support it can get in the post Assad rebuilding of the country and Russia could certainly play a role in return for continued use of Syria's ports.

    How well that might play with the United States we will have to see, but if I was the rebels and had the best of two very bad choices to make I would probably jump in bed with the Russians, Turk's and neighboring countries rather than the United States and our one-sided support for Israel.
    It doesn't help that Russia is now accusing US of obstructing the Quartet on Israel, Palestine, Iran and a nuclear weapons free Middle East. We may be forced to realize that there's more to the world than Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard777 View Post
    It doesn't help that Russia is now accusing US of obstructing the Quartet on Israel, Palestine, Iran and a nuclear weapons free Middle East. We may be forced to realize that there's more to the world than Israel.
    Why do you hate Jews so much?

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    Why do you hate paying back gambling debts so much?

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    Look how angry and bitter these leftwingers are for having gotten their collective chain yanked by SS.







    Then again, these are the same imbeciles that fell so hard for the "Stucky's Stickers" hoax, so it's easy to see how they could be so easily bamboozled with this, too ... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzoliberal View Post
    Chickenhawks drumming for more war.

    Great!
    Your Obama, The Leader, Savior, Lord and Messiah of some, and His administration have drawn red lines (aka chickenhawks drumming for more war; they will not be risking their lives when it comes to their racist, religiously bigoted, aggressive and imperialistic warmongering). If your Obama, The Leader, Savior, Lord and Messiah of some, and His administration decide to viciously attack Syria then you will have no choice but to support it.

    If you don't support such red lining and what follows, then you are a racist who hates Obama for the color of his skin and you hate 'merica and stuffs and flags and stuffs and want Gravedigger to beat Bigfoot and should move to Botswana where they don't have an Obama and His administration drawing red lines and stuffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ms maggie View Post
    What do you mean by "go now"? Invade? I am a little queasy abot airstrikes on weapons that are carrying deadly chemicals for the obvious reason.
    Hopefully someone has a plan in place already that would prevent spreading chemicals.

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