Better to fight now than let the Muslims build their armies and have to fight them ten or twenty years from now. Somebody has got to bring freedom to central Asia. We've got the power to do it, and we should do it.
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Better to fight now than let the Muslims build their armies and have to fight them ten or twenty years from now. Somebody has got to bring freedom to central Asia. We've got the power to do it, and we should do it.
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Well, actually it was Truman, but, please, proceed w/ your fables ...Originally Posted by Seadog
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From the article: "Viet Minh announced the establishment of an independent Vietnam with a new government called the Democratic Republic of Vietnam on September 2, 1945. The French, however, were not willing to give up their colony so easily and fought back."
I've posted this sorta stuff B4, but here goes:
The Viet Minh was pretty much a U.S-subsidized rebel org. to battle the Indochina-occupying Japanese in the 30s. After France fell to the Germans (1940), erstwhile German ally Japan allowed Vichy French to continue running the gov. in Indochina.
Once Japan was defeated & occupation forces were being repatriated, Indochina looked to the US of A(!!; back in day when the country commanded some respect) for guidance: choice of allowing known commie Ho Chi Minh to continue to establish a gov. or allowing the French to reoccupy.
A recommendation came from OSS operative (& later Green Berets co-founder) Aaron Bank, who w/ others'd been dropped in country to oversee repatriation of the Japanese forces & to keep old allied British forces & French from killing each other. Bank recognized Ho's popularity & concluded that for U.S. aid Ho would gladly let his extreme nationalism & his absolute disdain for any occupying forces (French, Japanese, Chinese, or American) supersede his commie ideology. Truman & co. saw it differently: the anti-commie stance'd subplanted the anti-nazi stance & Ho was just another tool.
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Hearings? Surely Shirley you jest!
They've all been promoted, advanced, rewarded, otherwise compensated. Good, decent, honest, hardworking Americans have nothing to say about this because 1) it really hasn't been publicized (The American Enterprise Institute & Heritage Foundation don't go door-2-door), & 2) they've learned to confuse profiteering from death & destruction w/ "capitalism."
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The French were fighting there until just after the Battle of Dien Bien Phu in May of 1954.
Our involvement started with Eisenhower in November of 1955, but that was limited to a handful of advisers. JFK and LBJ escalated things.
That great democrat Richard Nixon was the one who ended the madness.
Oh wait...he was a republican.
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Not that any of the above matters. We are now teaming up with Viet Nam to ward off the Chinese.
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Hoo-yeah!: check on YouTube for a clip of ret. Col. Doug Mcgregor telling his West Point audience that the Vietnamese would gladly welcome U.S. warships into Cam Ranh Bay! What was it Steppenwolf sang?: It's never too late to start all over again?
The Army may be exhausted, but that's no reason not to waste the Navy on our police-the-world schemes.
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Stellar example of "drinking the Kool-Aid?" Yoo-hoo: it's already 10 to 20 yr from "then."
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