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    After striking gold for years on linebacker draft picks(or undrafted free agents), the past couple have been horrible. This lot really has minimal talent at best, and is horrible for the most part. They're horrendous tacklers, useless in pass coverage and outside of Kruger, apply little to no pass rush. The secondary isn't any better and can't tackle either. So, you can say what you want about the coaches but they're only going to go as far as the talent will take them. Right now, it's rolling them downhill at an accelerated pace. Maybe they better get Buck Showalter to talk to the team before they flame out completely.

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    the wasted timeouts every week do have something to do with the coaching staff

    zero touches by Ray Rice last week in the 4th quarter does have something to do with the coaching staff

    Cam Camerons predictable play calling has everything to do with the coaching staff

    I'm not giving the players a pass by any means...they're just as much to blame but they aren't going anywhere

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    Seriously John a TO instead of taking the 5 yard penalty? Than no pressure on a QB who is lame. Than no pressure on a fresh rookie QB. Come on man, this is just getting worse.

    Now let us talk about the Blindside. Mike you need to go. To let your man get through and than the next play allow the blindside get through again. Joe you had a wide open receiver on the slant and a sure TD, just throw the dam ball.

    This stuff is getting old and it is time for Harbaugh to throw his OC and DC under the bus. This has to be the worse coached game of all.

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    the lack of using the middle of the field EVERY week boggles my mind

    Was Torrey Smith targeted in the 2nd half ?

    How you don't blitz Cousins ? (a cold young QB off the bench) baffles me also

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    Quote Originally Posted by durango46 View Post
    the wasted timeouts every week do have something to do with the coaching staff

    zero touches by Ray Rice last week in the 4th quarter does have something to do with the coaching staff

    Cam Camerons predictable play calling has everything to do with the coaching staff

    I'm not giving the players a pass by any means...they're just as much to blame but they aren't going anywhere
    I'm with you man but unfortunately I have this bad feeling that they are going to let Joe walk and keep Cameron and Harbaugh. I'm beyond pissed that Cameron is still here, Joe is not above criticism (the INT and fumble were dumb) but I think Cameron is dragging him down. Cameron doesn't have a real feel for the game and he refuses to at least try to call plays from the pressbox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarRay52 View Post
    I'm with you man but unfortunately I have this bad feeling that they are going to let Joe walk and keep Cameron and Harbaugh. I'm beyond pissed that Cameron is still here, Joe is not above criticism (the INT and fumble were dumb) but I think Cameron is dragging him down. Cameron doesn't have a real feel for the game and he refuses to at least try to call plays from the pressbox.
    I've been saying it for quite sometime. I want to see Flacco without Cameron. Only then will we know if Joe has what it takes.
    get rid of Cam and Harbs don't he can go to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durango46 View Post
    I've been saying it for quite sometime. I want to see Flacco without Cameron. Only then will we know if Joe has what it takes.
    I agree. The only way that happens without setting the franchise back years if it doesn't work is to place Franchise tag on Flacco. Yes, it will be expensive, but the investment is only one year if it doesn't work. Fire Cam and draft a QB high in the draft and play him behind Flacco next year. If Flacco plays more consistently with a new OC then sign him long term. If not, then you go with the guy you drafted in two years and hope he works out.

    It's not perfect but I don't see many other options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerBlood View Post
    I agree. The only way that happens without setting the franchise back years if it doesn't work is to place Franchise tag on Flacco. Yes, it will be expensive, but the investment is only one year if it doesn't work. Fire Cam and draft a QB high in the draft and play him behind Flacco next year. If Flacco plays more consistently with a new OC then sign him long term. If not, then you go with the guy you drafted in two years and hope he works out.

    It's not perfect but I don't see many other options.
    IMO, Flacco will be franchised next year. I don't see any other positive options at this point. A trade ??? Nah that just don't happen in the NFL
    I'm not interested in seeing Taylor run this offense

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    Is Harbaugh much more than a spectator during the games? Besides decisions on timeouts and red flags, does this guy do much coaching during the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesdean View Post
    After striking gold for years on linebacker draft picks(or undrafted free agents), the past couple have been horrible. This lot really has minimal talent at best, and is horrible for the most part. They're horrendous tacklers, useless in pass coverage and outside of Kruger, apply little to no pass rush. The secondary isn't any better and can't tackle either. So, you can say what you want about the coaches but they're only going to go as far as the talent will take them. Right now, it's rolling them downhill at an accelerated pace. Maybe they better get Buck Showalter to talk to the team before they flame out completely.
    The Ravens have put themselves in a position where they have to go the free agent route. It worked for them in the early days when they were building a Super Bowl team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckferg View Post
    The Ravens have put themselves in a position where they have to go the free agent route. It worked for them in the early days when they were building a Super Bowl team.
    They also had the draft to help with that, they need real money to go the free agent route and with a tight salary cap it's going to be hard to get big name free agents. The Ravens have a lot of issues to fix and Joe Flacco isn't the only one. We need to start looking at Ozzie a lot more closely.

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    The Ravens over paid for Suggs and Ngata BIG TIME, and so they made their own problems. Now their options are much more limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalColtsFan View Post
    The Ravens over paid for Suggs and Ngata BIG TIME, and so they made their own problems. Now their options are much more limited.
    Exactly, they put themselves in this situation. Letting Joe walk isn't going to make everything dramatically better like some people seem to think it will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarRay52 View Post
    Exactly, they put themselves in this situation. Letting Joe walk isn't going to make everything dramatically better like some people seem to think it will.
    Letting Joe walk will put the Ravens behind for the next 5-10 years. Book it.

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    I can't wait to see what Flacco can do once Cam is gone. Only way that happens if Ozzie or Biscotti step in, because we know Harbaugh doesn't have the stones to do anything about it. It's amazing what happens when you have an OC that calls plays to his Qb's strengths and actually has a feel for how the game is going. Don't need to look any further than Griffin and Shanahan today. You can't tell me that the Redskins offense has more talent on it than the Ravens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OriginalColtsFan View Post
    Letting Joe walk will put the Ravens behind for the next 5-10 years. Book it.
    The haters don't see it, they will if Joe leaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarRay52 View Post
    The haters don't see it, they will if Joe leaves.
    How quickly they forget what it was like to have Boller. Arizona would love to have Flacco and a lot of other teams too.

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    That strange sequence to end the first half despite having 44 seconds and two timeouts to try to at least get in long FG range. Wasting at least one timeout in the second half on a punt near midfield, then walking off the field with 25 seconds left and a timeout in their pocket (should have had at least two)... in a TIE game.

    Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.

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    I still don't get ity. You call a TO on their 40 to save a 5 yard delay call? Take the penalty, I bet Washington would have refused the yardage.

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    Blaming the coaching staff is always the easy thing to do. Cameron I'm with everybody on. I posted 3 years ago here that there was a reason why a Cameron coached offense has never been in a superbowl. His offenses always collapsed in the playoffs. But Harbaugh hasn't been that bad. The guy has only gotten his team to the playoffs 4 years straight, and soon to be a 5th year. Until today, his teams had never lost 2 in a row. That's pretty impressive. You might say that he had the players and that is why he got there, but the same could be said for now. He no longer has the players and that's why you are seeing what you are seeing. The Ravens were healthy for the better part of the last several years, but this year is a little different. For all of the accolades during preseasons about the depth on this team, it isn't so. The secondary is weak and without any pass rush, it is downright horrible. The worst offseason move, in hindsight, was letting Jared Johnson go. The Ravens are a good team that has had some fortunate breaks this year, but those breaks don't always go in your favor and usually even out over the course of a season. Personally, I think the real window of opportunity was the last two seasons. They lost a 14 point lead in Pittsburgh that would have resulted in hosting the Jets for the AFCC had they won. Everyone knows about last year. Those opportunities don't keep coming along. Now it appears that there are several cracks in the team that need to be repaired to be a legitimate superbowl threat.

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